It's not hilarious but still
that would have conflicted with the US's policy of putting Nazis back into power
“ I fear that Allied policy may be no more than to achieve Fascism which will favor us instead of favor Germany.”
- Edward Murrow
We forced Germans out of the easternmost parts of Germany to give it to... Poland, a nation which had never held that land until that point. That shit could have been Israel instead.
That's not really true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_evolution_of_Poland#/media/File:Border_changes_in_history_of_Poland.png
Damn ok, didn't know that. But it still hadn't been Polish for like 500 years by the end of WWII.
I think the big meme at the center of it is Jerusalem which has religious significance. I feel you though.
I mean, it has religious significance for Christians and Muslims as well, right?
For sure. But if you want something more than the first sentence of wikipedia, you'd need to ask someone else
Since the existence of the earliest Jewish diaspora, many Jews have aspired to return to "Zion" and the "Land of Israel",[143] though the amount of effort that should be spent towards such an aim was a matter of dispute.[144][145]
Not sure what a diaspora is, but BDS+free Palestine. Israel is not a legitimate country.
They should just have made a 2nd Jerusalem then. Kinda like how Disneyworld is in both Florida and California
Yeah, there is historical significance to this because there's already New Jersey and New Y*rk. New Jerusalem could be in the middle of Montana and nobody would notice for a good 4 or 5 years until some Amazon delivery driver asks one too many questions.
Apparently Ho Chi Minh proposed setting aside land in Vietnam. Interesting thought.
Wasn't there gonna be one in Scotland too?
That would've been fucking hilarious. These people have just been genocided and everyone's like right, let's rub salt in the wound and send them to the most miserable place on earth.
I was going to say something about how it might have worked out much better than our current timeline, but there would have ended up being a tripartite pact between KenIsrael, Rhodesia, and South Africa.
The Free, Jewish, and Hanseatic City of Danzig would be a massive flex.
Before 1922 “Palestine” was just a chunk of land ruled by the Ottoman Empire.
But the people in the ottoman empire weren't exactly mvoing around willy nilly
Right, but since when have ‘the people’ factored in to geopolitics.
Creating Israel meant turning a multiethnic country into a ethnostate, so no, it did not made sense.
Maybe a mass migration of Jews into Palestine could have worked out if they were not Zionists, trying to create a "Jewish state" and instead were just refugees assimilating into Palestine. But that wasn't the case, and the British empire specifically wanted ethnic strife in their colonies.
People act like early Zionism was some pure hearted thing but no, there was always elements of supremacy in the movement. The literal concept of "Degenerate art" later used by the Nazis was invented by a Zionist named Max Nordau, and not in a "Oh they just lifted some inspiration", it was the whole damn concept taken straight from him.
I guess theres just this tendency to want to think that "things went wrong" with Israel rather than things going pretty much as anyone with a functional understanding of politics and society should have expected.
This is why I always say Israel should have been put in former East Prussia. All the Germans were getting deported anyways, and it was relatively close for everyone
What about Konigsberg, noone wanted that post WWII.
Actually Hilarious
It’s not hilarious
Is this dialectics? :curious-marx:
(also I don’t think the Jews would want to create a Zionist state over the area that murdered a majority of said Jews in area)
This is a real proposal that should happen: Medinat Weimar
Medinat Weimar defines Jewish not through blood or ancestry but through similarity in mind, culture, common history and unity of fate. Jews from European origin, Jews from non-European origin, Palestinians Arabs (Muslim and Christian alike) and all other parties affected by the activities of the state of Israel are considered to share a common fate
Bitch your ancestors are from Poland, but we can’t split that up again.
"the yiddish policemen's union" is a pretty good book set in an alternate world where european jews settled in alaska
