Wondering what Hexbear’s thoughts on this are. Seems they’ll be out next year too.
I feel like they’re overhyped. Iirc both China an India have nasal vaccines, and they have yet to achieve sterilizing immunity. What do you think? Also, do you think next year is too soon a deadline for these vaccines?
I think nasal vaccines will at least help reduce stress for people who are scared of needles.
Nasal vaccines will probably carry the same benefit as nasal sprays like covixyl: Keeps COVID from getting into your brain from your nose, which is what causes long COVID.
So even if nasal vaccines end up being less efficacious overall than mRNA vaccines in terms of avoiding long-term cardiovascular problems from COVID, if it reduces the risk of long COVID more than mRNA vaccines, I would opt for a nasal vaccine no question.
Live attenuated vaccine (live organisms engineered to reduce their virulence) almost always elicit a stronger response than just protein vaccination (including mRNA-induced protein expression), as it mimics natural infection. One concern about live attenuated vaccine is their safety profile, and not knowing what the attenuated viruses can do because they are still live viruses after all.
However natural infection didn’t protect those with prior infection from Omicron, nor will it protect them from the more recent JN.1 and EG5.1 circulating variants that are already deviating very far from the initial strains, to the point where our immune system can no longer recognize.
I haven't seen any news on how effective the Chinese and Indian nasal vaccines are. Last I heard they weren't very effective with the current approach, and the shots work more effective, but that may be due to US bias in the news I'm seeing.
What they are trying to achieve is to provoke an immune response when the virus hits the mucosal layer, before the virus gets into the bloodstream, which would decrease contagiousness and harm from repeat infections. The reason the virus is so damaging is because once it gets into the bloodstream it can basically infect everywhere in your body and how much damage it does is based on how quickly your body recognizes the virus before it spreads.
There is also evidence the virus gets into the brain through the olfactory bulb, so stopping it at that point will help a lot, and also one of the reasons I think it's a good idea to use an anti-viral nasal spray, even if it doesn't fully protect you from catching the virus.
So, they would be a good thing. Less damage from the virus, less chance to spread it. Probably won't be a silver bullet because no one wants to pay for air filtration, or continue to try and control the spread of disease in schools, hospitals and other public spaces, but it would help.
Dr. Eric Topal is a good person to follow on twitter if you want updates on how it's going. So far there have been promising trials, not a sure thing, but promising. From what he's seeing he guesses we might see them at the end of 2024, but no one really knows.
https://erictopol.substack.com/p/covid-nasal-vaccines-get-a-boost
I'm going to default to being cynical and thinking that low vaccine uptake won't change anything. That way, if it ends up working out, I can be pleasantly surprised.
