Scoop: White House budget will NOT include key Biden campaign pledges -- such as the public option, prescription drugs reform, or student debt relief, per sourcesWH squarely focused on $4T in jobs/infrastructure + "families" plansW/ @tylerpager https://t.co/3DJIQfYPi6— Jeff Stein (@JStein_WaPo) May 21, 2021
That's truly the best part, they negotiated down and still didn't get any R votes, as expected. Like I even saw blue wave people being like, "why do they keep trying to work with Republicans, they never actually vote for the bills" real egg on face moment. But I mean we all know part of the reason they even do this charade is their donor class does not want these things, but it's all part of the song and dance so they can pretend like they almost did these things, that's close enough, right?
the solution to Manchin and Sinema is that we vote harder.
The best bit is that they don't mean PRIMARY those clowns. No, the reddit liberal guide to being completely useless is to instead vote for dems elsewhere and just...leave them be. If they got primaried, they might get replaced by conservatives! Those conservatives would surely vote against all the same stuff Sinema and Manchin would vote against, for COMPLETELY different reasons
If the GOP had done Obama era-like obstructionism in, say, the 1970s - I could at least understand Biden saying said he still has gotta try to work with the GOP because that was so long ago. But in our actual reality - when Biden was VP - he wasn't the second most powerful person in DC - McConnell was. Biden was in the fucking room when McConnell ratfucked Obama time and again. Anyone with a brain understand these. And now that Biden, himself, is president - the second most powerful person in DC is not Kamala - it's Manchin.
PRIMARY those clowns
I've suggested that in r/politics but I was patted on the head and I was told that I don't understand how politics works.
Of course, because that's a deviation from the norm. They would rather ride the river of mediocrity and piss into the eventual ocean of piss than change course. Because change is scary to these people. It's why they keep falling back into line time and again, even as their own party fucks them and everyone else over.
The lib argument is that since Manchin is from a deep red state he's the most "valuable" Dem senator and even with his obstruction a GOP senator in his place would do even worse things (like block the stimulus bill). This is pretty effective at stopping all conversation because it's enough to justify literally anything Manchin does.
Too left wing radical. We need to negotiate it down to get support from House Republicans.
That's truly the best part, they negotiated down and still didn't get any R votes, as expected. Like I even saw blue wave people being like, "why do they keep trying to work with Republicans, they never actually vote for the bills" real egg on face moment. But I mean we all know part of the reason they even do this charade is their donor class does not want these things, but it's all part of the song and dance so they can pretend like they almost did these things, that's close enough, right?
I also hear a lot of "We want to but can't because of manchin and sinema" these days.
I've had a couple redditors in r/politics reply to me that the solution to Manchin and Sinema is that we vote harder.
Vote harder is the go-to all-around solution to any problem the dems have.
The best bit is that they don't mean PRIMARY those clowns. No, the reddit liberal guide to being completely useless is to instead vote for dems elsewhere and just...leave them be. If they got primaried, they might get replaced by conservatives! Those conservatives would surely vote against all the same stuff Sinema and Manchin would vote against, for COMPLETELY different reasons
If the GOP had done Obama era-like obstructionism in, say, the 1970s - I could at least understand Biden saying said he still has gotta try to work with the GOP because that was so long ago. But in our actual reality - when Biden was VP - he wasn't the second most powerful person in DC - McConnell was. Biden was in the fucking room when McConnell ratfucked Obama time and again. Anyone with a brain understand these. And now that Biden, himself, is president - the second most powerful person in DC is not Kamala - it's Manchin.
I've suggested that in r/politics but I was patted on the head and I was told that I don't understand how politics works.
Of course, because that's a deviation from the norm. They would rather ride the river of mediocrity and piss into the eventual ocean of piss than change course. Because change is scary to these people. It's why they keep falling back into line time and again, even as their own party fucks them and everyone else over.
The lib argument is that since Manchin is from a deep red state he's the most "valuable" Dem senator and even with his obstruction a GOP senator in his place would do even worse things (like block the stimulus bill). This is pretty effective at stopping all conversation because it's enough to justify literally anything Manchin does.
If you're in line to vote, stay in line!
Manchinema and it's where these two do skits in Halo
To get support from ~10% more House Republicans.
Nothing is going to stop the GOP from torpedoing Biden. But if he scuttles the ship himself... [taps forehead]