I don't wanna sound weird/racist, but the "contemporary true crime podcast" genre emanates a sinister MSNBC liberal whiteness I can't properly articulate. Is this off-base?
You have to subvert the genre to make something that isn't ghoulish. In the same vein, I'd say Murderville is alright because the "true crime" in question is a negligent or deliberate wrongful conviction rather than the murder they're convicted of
The media amplifies and sensationalizes random violence, creating a continuous stream of small and impersonal traumas in its largely suburbanite audience. They understand their complicity in the violence on a subconscious level, but cognitive dissonance prevents them from accepting this on a conscious level. This creates a feedback loop where they repeatedly seek out content to retraumatize themselves in an effort to regain control of their place in these narratives.
In my experience this is correct, my grandma was in her 80s watching murder documentaries in a neighborhood where the cheapest house was like 250k lmao
That may be generally true, but in my experience it is mostly women (not all 'white') who listen to it. I think it is a way of dealing with the the anxiety of being a woman in a world that makes them unsafe.
The podcasts don’t give safety tips, or offer self defense courses or practical advice. They revel in salacious drama and personal details of murder on a libidinal level. Let’s stop with this bullshit myth that true crime is “to protect oneself from murder”. It’s entertainment and titillation not serious defensive studies let’s be real.
I revel in violence too sometimes in my entertainment, in video games and action movies. But I don’t use real “true” violence to get off, I use fake and fictional violence at least
I don't wanna sound weird/racist, but the "contemporary true crime podcast" genre emanates a sinister liberal whiteness I can't properly articulate. Is this off-base?
I think you're detecting it accurately.
I haven't known a single "true crime" enthusiast that wasn't an insulated and smugly comfortable lanyard wearer. Death and suffering make them less bored about their comfortable shallow lives.
Yeah it just seems so very voyeuristic in a way. Especially the concept of real existing peoples hardships with crime, the criminal justice system, socioeconomics, all that jazz put on display for entertainment feels to put in a word: yucky. It seems like a view steps from human-zoo shit. Like just watch reality tv, at least those people sign up to be a mess for your entertainment.
I don't wanna sound weird/racist, but the "contemporary true crime podcast" genre emanates a sinister MSNBC liberal whiteness I can't properly articulate. Is this off-base?
Only good true crime podcast is
because it focuses on bourgeois/systemic crimes
You have to subvert the genre to make something that isn't ghoulish. In the same vein, I'd say Murderville is alright because the "true crime" in question is a negligent or deliberate wrongful conviction rather than the murder they're convicted of
True crime podcasts are crime porn for suburbanites.
The media amplifies and sensationalizes random violence, creating a continuous stream of small and impersonal traumas in its largely suburbanite audience. They understand their complicity in the violence on a subconscious level, but cognitive dissonance prevents them from accepting this on a conscious level. This creates a feedback loop where they repeatedly seek out content to retraumatize themselves in an effort to regain control of their place in these narratives.
But yeah it's mostly some white people shit.
yeah, i've never met any true crime fan who wasnt a complete freak in some way (also never met one who wasnt a white upper middle class person)
its scary stories to tell in the dark but for upper middle class white libs who are (comparatively) alienated from violence by their own money
Scary Stories was cool and good even if the old Stephen Gammel illustrations might need some serious parental advisory.
I used to stare at those pictures before bed so I'd have cool nightmares. It never worked.
lol that rules, i'm surprised i never thought of that bc those pics ruled.
i knew someone who made some screenprinted shirts with the artwork on them but i never hit him up before he moved away :(
In my experience this is correct, my grandma was in her 80s watching murder documentaries in a neighborhood where the cheapest house was like 250k lmao
That may be generally true, but in my experience it is mostly women (not all 'white') who listen to it. I think it is a way of dealing with the the anxiety of being a woman in a world that makes them unsafe.
The podcasts don’t give safety tips, or offer self defense courses or practical advice. They revel in salacious drama and personal details of murder on a libidinal level. Let’s stop with this bullshit myth that true crime is “to protect oneself from murder”. It’s entertainment and titillation not serious defensive studies let’s be real.
I revel in violence too sometimes in my entertainment, in video games and action movies. But I don’t use real “true” violence to get off, I use fake and fictional violence at least
I'm not saying people listen to it for safety tips. I'm not even saying it's healthy or good. I think it's a kind of morbid fascination.
yes a morbid, libidinal titillation and excitement. an unhealthy obsession with and fetishization of serial killers
No when I think "true crime podcast listener" I think "white woman with no personality"
I think you're detecting it accurately.
I haven't known a single "true crime" enthusiast that wasn't an insulated and smugly comfortable lanyard wearer. Death and suffering make them less bored about their comfortable shallow lives.
Yeah it just seems so very voyeuristic in a way. Especially the concept of real existing peoples hardships with crime, the criminal justice system, socioeconomics, all that jazz put on display for entertainment feels to put in a word: yucky. It seems like a view steps from human-zoo shit. Like just watch reality tv, at least those people sign up to be a mess for your entertainment.
American Psycho type beat
not at all. in fact i think i am fully justified in saying that the average true crime podcast is EXACTLY like The Turner Diaries for white women.
Yup (you are right)