Post your conspiracy theories about how conspiracy theories are conspiracies against actual theories.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      They do appear in other countries, its not entirely the US

      They don't really. Or rather they do but it is far, far more uncommon.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        You're wrong though. South America, Africa and Asia have pretty rich UFO lore, you just hear about the US cases the most because of dat cultural hegemony.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Not really. In a few places it sporadically becomes more frequent, especially in South America, because something received a lot of media attention. In Chile for instance the military offered a similar video which was thoroughly debunked, however it played enough that everyone started seeing aliens suddenly. But overall it's a phenomenon that started in the US and that is where it is still most prominent.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              The US is what, 300 million people? The world has about 7 billion people. And yet most reports come from the US. I saw some research that said around 16% of Americans claimed to have seen a UFO. I can assure you no such thing happens in any place I know. I don't know about every single country but no matter where I look, every list in numerous languages has a massively disproportionate number of UFO sightings coming from the US.

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                Most reports you personally hear about come from the US. You won't be able to get an easy overview of the entire dataset by doing a few google searches, you need to dig into this stuff a bit.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  I've done the digging, it's US everywhere lol. It's not that they don't exist from other countries, its just that like half of them conservatively speaking are from the US, when the US only has 300 million people or so. You also don't see nearly as many UFO hunters or whatever elsewhere.

                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    There are plenty of prominent cases that resist trivial debunking that are outside of the US, like the Ariel school incident or the Belgian UFO wave for example. I don't think it's particularly significant that most of the reported cases are in the US. The phenomenon is clearly worldwide.

                    Also if it is ET it would make sense they'd pay special attention to the US considering it's the current hegemon.

          • space_comrade [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Well apparently China is doing its own UFO disclosure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWKysekGJU8

            I haven't managed to independently verify all of the info in the video but the "five continents forum" things seems like it's real.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              All this video shows is that in a country where literally billions of people live, there is a small organization of ufologists unconnected to the government which organized an international conference. Um alright but that's not really anything to do with China doing a UFO disclosure.

              • space_comrade [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                It actually is connected to the government if the video is to be believed, did you even watch it to the end?

                All that said I couldn't really independently verify most of the info, so it might just be bullshit.

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  It actually is connected to the government if the video is to be believed, did you even watch it to the end?

                  It didn't show anything that indicated that, at least as much as I watched. Maybe it said so in some part I skipped. The closest it came to was where it said they invited a bunch of government officials. But you can invite whomever they want, they don't have to have anything to do with you. The other argument was that the Chinese government allows them to exist therefore they're directly set up by Xi himself or whatever, which is just "everyone in China is part of a CCP hive mind" nonsense. I can't even find any sources on anything about this org that don't trace back to the same couple of ufology websites.

                  • space_comrade [he/him]
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                    4 years ago

                    Yeah I'm pretty skeptical of that too, I can't find any info myself except that it does seem like an actual thing. It did mention government officials participating in it, even on fairly high levels.