I moved here from America last year because they have tuition free college, and I'm honestly impressed with how stupid and evil this country is. Like I truly believe there is less revolutionary potential here than in America. Say what you will about America, but there is a general social attitude that does not put up with these bullshit opinions being publicly voiced.

Overall, Germany has some cool stuff going on, but they're also quite stupid and clueless.

  • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
    hexagon
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    4 years ago

    I don't know. Like we can discuss the complicity of the German population in the Holocaust and the unique cultural and historical reasons that German civilians were responsible for the world's most reactionary regime, but I don't think killing civilians is justified. I don't think Dresden is any more justified than Hiroshima or Nagasaki.

    Also, the bombings of civilian centers didn't kill nazi sympathizers either. The opposite in fact. So-called "degenerate" portions of the population were excluded from the air raid shelters in Germany, so most of the victims of the bombing campaigns were not sympathizers.

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      putting aside that the special attention Dresden gets is because of Nazi propaganda in the first place, the Germans and Axis powers don't deserve an equal place in conversations about civilian casualties. They all killed many, many, many more civilians than they lost, even with those barbaric, indiscriminate tactics the Allies used. Oh boo hoo a half million innocent germans got killed while their countrymen were murdering 12 million+, those living under, or supporting the fascist powers suffered what they must for the rest of the world to wrench them out of their genocidal regimes.

      fuck it, 500k to 12 mil+ is an even greater disparity than Palestine/Israel, are you going to pay the same lipservice to the Israeli civilians merk'd by Hamas missiles?

    • Gothouse [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Not just Dresden. The Royal Air Force spent the entire war bombing civilian targets. They had to lie to the crews and tell them they were bombing munitions factories. The USAF went for daylight bombing to try to actually bomb industry and got savaged. The British went at night when aim wasn't important, just drop those firebombs somewhere in the city limits.

    • Iodotus [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Enable and support a fascist regime, you get what you fucking deserve