No lol I'm not spiritual at all and could never find myself making a centrist argument! I damn near forgot most of the things I was thinking about while tripping anyway :\
No lol I’m not spiritual at all
Take enough psychs and that'll change, believe me.
I doubted that too - incredibly strongly - before my first DMT breakthroughs. That shit basically resets your consciousness/neural patterns and it's pretty incredible what comes out when you get, even for a moment, outside of the extreme materialism/rationalism of our modern Western societies. We are completely modeled in terms of consciousness after the way our Western societies function, and very deep at that. More than 50% of people experiencing a DMT breakthrough go towards spirituality (though in my case I wouldn't say it's towards a conventional "god", but nevertheless - I have no fear of death anymore and much more respect for spirituality). 80% of them say it completely changed their outlook on the nature of reality.
So if you haven't actually tried it, you were like me before: extremely doubtful. But what I experienced nothing that comes from rationalism/materialism can explain. And words cannot either - the thing that maybe comes the closest is deep poetry, but still light-years away from the actual experience.
The trip was amazing, it had me thinking "literally everybody (who is psychologically capable) should do this." And I'm not into drugs at all, only other thing I've ever done is alcohol.
It kinda blew my expectations out of the water. I expected to see brighter colors or maybe have some scary hallucinations that my body was melting or something (I honestly half expected to have a nightmare trip even though I was in a good headspace). The visuals that stood out the most to me actually sound really mundane when I explain them. While I was sitting on my porch, there was a lot of dust on the table; you could wipe away some of the dust and leave behind some squiggly shapes. As the acid kicked in, these squiggly shapes started to dance around a lot and that mesmerized me. We also went for a walk through our neighborhood and the geometric patterns I saw in the grass were amazing, it was like these thousands of tesseracts constantly moving around in sync.
I accidentally took two tabs for this trip. My girlfriend didn't have a test kit, but I read online that stomach acid destroys NBOME's but not LSD. So I swallowed the first tab. Didn't feel anything for two hours, and my girlfriend took it normally and confirmed that it was acid (not her first trip). So I figured I had ruined the first tab and took another the normal way. I have no way of knowing if the first tab kicked in too or not, but I was far more out of it than she was. At the peak, I blacked out and don't really remember much of what we did unfortunately and I forgot a lot of the crazier things that I saw. I do remember that I was hallucinating other people's faces on her head and for some reason it almost looked digitized, like I would see her smiling and then it would look like a computer glitch and then she would have a different expression.
The main thing that I wanted to experience was how music sounded, and man did that blow my fucking mind. I damn near cried during the outro of War Pigs it sounded so amazing. I also gotta say, for YEARS I have been pretty adamant that I thought DSOTM was an overrated album and that Pink Floyd was pretty bland. Fans (and my friend) always seem to say "oh you just have to hear them while you're tripping" and I always roll my eyes. I mean, how good can an album be if you have to be drugged to enjoy it? The answer, I discovered, is pretty damn amazing. DSOTM sounded so beautiful while I was tripping that I just kept listening to it on repeat, instead of listening to my favorite album TPAB (which is what I was planning on listening to). Even now when I am sober, my perspective on the album has completely shifted, I've been enjoying the hell out of it for the past couple days.
Because the experience was so strong (I think both tabs kicked in for me), I didn't have a lot of time for any introspecting so I didn't have many profound thoughts other than "I gotta do this again." I remember at one point I wanted to microwave a muffin but I for some reason didn't have the motivation to do it. It was like acid put me in a constant state of "about to do something..." like I would have an idea, but then it would take forever to convince myself to actually do it. Once I got the muffin in the microwave, I didn't have the mental faculties to figure out how to use the microwave. I had to get my girlfriend to help and we double teamed it lol.
Lastly, the only really bad part of the trip was when I went to the bathroom and I hallucinated that I pissed my pants and I was terrified that I would have to go explain to my girlfriend that this drug made me incontinent. The comedown wasn't nearly as bad as I expected, we just felt drained with no appetite and constantly had to go to the bathroom, but otherwise we were completely fine the next day.
literally everybody (who is psychologically capable) should do this
I thought the same after my first few trips but now I'm more experienced - especially with much harder psychs such as DMT (that first DMT breakthrough was basically the most life-transforming, intense experience of my whole life; by a wide, wide margin - LSD felt like a joke compared to it) - I'm much more wary of recommending it to people. I think it's not for everyone. Especially if they had significant trauma in their past.
My usual advice when recommending doing psychs, as an aside, are:
- Start with very low doses. Increase progressively. Yes, it will be disappointing initially. But it's the best way.
- Do not resist or try to take control of the situation. You're not in control, you're going on a trip.
The second one especially is maybe the most important one to avoid bad experiences.
That's a good point; yet I've seen some horror stories when it comes to buried trauma and psychs. I've think in these case it would ideally be done under the care of someone trained to handle such things.
Yes I agree, this is why I stipulated that only everyone who is psychologically capable should. I know it’s impossible to know whether it’s for you or not until you try it, but retrospectively, it seems like people who are in a similar headspace to me and don’t have that kind of psychological trauma or predisposition to psychotic/dissociative disorders can really gain something from the experience.
Yep, that sounds exactly like doing acid. NBome tabs have a metallic taste and real acid doesn't btw
Stick to low doses :D
Anything over 3 tabs is asking for a REALLY bad time
I wouldn't say it's bad necessarily. Just be prepared to cry for a few hours. I felt so much better after that, though.
lol can confirm, once had a very bad time on 4 tabs, it's so much more than 4 times 1 tab
Nice one. Sounds like a wonderful time. No questions from me :soviet-heart:
Never was with the right person before that I felt comfortable with. We decided a few months ago, but finding any was a bitch, it seems like supply is extremely low in our area since festivals haven't really been going on during the pandemic
Know your limits and stay safe ❤️ I know too many people who went too far.