I've seen a lot on people in twitter discussing wether people should do "kinks"(?) in pride because they might scar the children for life and other arguments. Also calling people like the youtuber Big Joel pedos for thinking this is not a huge deal.
What happened? Maybe this is an american thing but since when have kids been brought to pride?
Again, I'm just not seeing the gangs of men running around shoving their dongs in people's faces at pride events. Maybe I'm going to the wrong ones, I don't know.
"I don’t think we should display sexuality in front of people who don’t want it without consent" is a more coherent argument IMO but it's pretty far reaching and it's not too different from arguments I've heard from my old conservative friends who, coincidentally, also used language like "normal" to describe queer people who dressed and acted modestly.
I mean I don't think so, the idea that public kink is disrespectful and violates consent is one that many members of the kink community themselves argue https://www.reddit.com/r/BDSMcommunity/comments/loguci/leashing_in_public/ https://www.reddit.com/r/BDSMcommunity/comments/79htlt/at_what_point_do_you_consider_public_displays_of/
Arguments like "There's a line, of course, where it's kind of silly. Wearing an obvious collar in public, IMO, isn't a problem. Calling someone "Sir" in public is fine. But if you get into things like public humiliation and very obvious and intense D/S dynamics, you have to remember that Joe Nobody walking down the street didn't give informed consent." That's the opinion I hold on the matter too, a few simple things ok but when you get to obvious sexual behavior there is no such thing as informed consent for the public and you are thus violating it and are acting unethically. You even see people making similar points like "Don't conflate homosexuality with a kink. It's extremely disrespectful.....two gay people exisiting in public is NOT inherently sexual and people who hold the perception are either extremely misguided, uniformed, or just plain ol homophobic."
When did I do this? You keep making this point even after I explicitly said that I don't think these things are synonymous. If you think something I said was homophobic please point to it.
And I really don't think walking down the street on any average day and going to a pride event are synonymous. That doesn't mean that anything goes in the latter but lets not pretend it's the same thing to go to the grocery store in your BDSM gear, where subjecting strangers is the thrill of it, and going to a festival where there is a more relaxed attitude towards sex and you are doing it as an act of self expression.