So one group that does 70% of the work still only gets 50% of the reward while the group that does 30% of the work get the remaining 50%? How is this a situation where "Everyone gets exactly what they put in" ?
No, you said a classless society is when "Everyone gets exactly what they put in", which you further clarified as "resources are distributed equally". These 2 statements are logically incoherent, unless everyone puts in equal work. Another confusion comes from how exactly is "work put in" measured. Do you see how incoherent and confused your understanding of communism is?
You said "There’s no class that gains from the work of someone else", the logical conclusion from that is that everyone gets only the reward of the work they did. The moment a single group of people get the work of someone else, instead of just the work they did, you will have what is a class (as defined by you and not by communists)
whatever just give me something to read
You made this thread smugly talking about how Americans have incoherent understanding of politics. The first thing I suggest is having some humility. As for something to read, you should read "Communist Manifesto" , "Wage Labour and Capital", "Value, Price and Profit", "Critique of the Gotha Programme", Capital Vol 1 all by Marx/Engels and found on www.marxists.org . Then you can also read some ICP party texts(falsely attributed to Bordiga), like "The Fundamentals of Revolutionary Communism" , " ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1957/fundamentals.htm ), "The original content of the communist program" ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1958/marxism-property.htm ). To deprogram you brain from Stalinist and "AES" ideology, read "Dialogue with Stalin" ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm ).
It begins with you. Explain what is communism.
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Don't start with whats communism. Start with why communism
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Published in 1933 lmao
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Rockyfella's was still in living memory at the time so it makes sense in context
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I mean the epic of gilgamesh is essentially a tale of bros being brought and that still has relevance today so yeah. Temporal relativity is fun
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don quixote is fucking so good there's a chapter that's basically looney tunes
A classless, stateless society
What does classless mean?
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There's no class that gains from the work of someone else
How does this work? Everyone gets exactly what they put in?
Resources are distributed equally
So one group that does 70% of the work still only gets 50% of the reward while the group that does 30% of the work get the remaining 50%? How is this a situation where "Everyone gets exactly what they put in" ?
You were the one who said that, not me. As long as everyone is working I don't see the need to means-test who deserves more of the resources.
No, you said a classless society is when "Everyone gets exactly what they put in", which you further clarified as "resources are distributed equally". These 2 statements are logically incoherent, unless everyone puts in equal work. Another confusion comes from how exactly is "work put in" measured. Do you see how incoherent and confused your understanding of communism is?
I still didn't say the first thing but whatever just give me something to read
You said "There’s no class that gains from the work of someone else", the logical conclusion from that is that everyone gets only the reward of the work they did. The moment a single group of people get the work of someone else, instead of just the work they did, you will have what is a class (as defined by you and not by communists)
You made this thread smugly talking about how Americans have incoherent understanding of politics. The first thing I suggest is having some humility. As for something to read, you should read "Communist Manifesto" , "Wage Labour and Capital", "Value, Price and Profit", "Critique of the Gotha Programme", Capital Vol 1 all by Marx/Engels and found on www.marxists.org . Then you can also read some ICP party texts(falsely attributed to Bordiga), like "The Fundamentals of Revolutionary Communism" , " ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1957/fundamentals.htm ), "The original content of the communist program" ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1958/marxism-property.htm ). To deprogram you brain from Stalinist and "AES" ideology, read "Dialogue with Stalin" ( https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1952/stalin.htm ).