• Straight_Depth [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    France has taken the backseat on its imperialism after getting its ass thoroughly handed to it by its former colonies in Africa and Asia in the 50s-60s. The anglos are at the forefront of evil and their imperialist project, they have justly earned all their hate and more. Once the playing field has been leveled, France can enjoy getting another ass-kicking or ten, as a treat.

    • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      France has been stealthy, but it has NOT taken a backseat by any means. They are arguably one of most neo-colonialist country on earth right now with their presence and operations in africa, france-afrique and everything related to the CFA Franc.

      • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        everything related to the CFA Franc

        Gaddafi wanted to create an Africa wide currency. I wonder what France's role was in his removal and assassination.

        • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          France is absolutely involved with Gaddafi. There were strange links between Sarkozy (and his campaign) and Gaddafi's regime, and it's extremely likely that France essentially ordered his death (or strongly contributed to it) because he knew too much and would have too much leverage. Considering the threat he was also becoming regarding france's interests in the region as a whole, without the money links to Sarkozy France stil had enough reason to want him gone.

          They've assassinated and coup-ed plenty of african regimes, including (no definitive proof but I'm personally quite convinced) with the death of Sankara.

    • enkifish [any]
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      3 years ago

      France has had a hand in assassinating like 22 African leaders since decolonization. Françafrique is still a thing. The foreign and economic policies of their former colonies in west Africa are still run from Paris. Fuck, they even played a major role in the Rawandan genocide. France sucks, and this is coming from an admitted francophile.

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      ok but large parts of West Africa are still de facto French puppet states because Paris controls their monetary policy (plus all those assassinations)

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      lmao Spain really out here staring at the fucking ground hoping their number doesn’t get called for having arguably the most cartoonishly cruel large empire out of all of them.

      And while all ‘40’s euro fash leaders died early these motherfuckers kept theirs til the fucking 70’s as if it was nothing. Spain does not get enough hate.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The Iberic peninsula entered the chat

    • tetrabrick [xey/xem, she/her]
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      3 years ago

      correct me if im wrong but hasnt spain and portugal sphere of influence being broken for some time, france its still controlling former colonies money and doing interventions to keep them in line.

      el congreso iberoamericano is the only thing i remeber that could be related apart from neoliberalism . i might have drank too much kool aid imperialism propaganda though

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah nobody gives a shit about those failed empires now turned into backwaters. But a lot of corporations leeching latam are from there, but not because of old ties of course.

    • a_party_german [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      yeah european leftist orthodoxy demands that you criticize Germany right after France, every time. It's just good practice. I support this.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        yeah francophobia is cool and good in the hands of any other country

  • hahafuck [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    French-hating is much more common in francophone leftist circles unsurprisingly

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Damn, an elephant vs hippo fight. Wonder what prompted the confrontation. Also yeah, fuck France, I'm just captivated by the image.

    • Fartman77 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I would assume because of the presence of the child the mama hippo took the elephant as a threat and attacked it.

  • hamouy [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    My hate for France would fuel the world thrice over.

  • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Anecdotally, some Vietnamese friends I've spoken to have more sympathy for France than they do for the U.S. or even China.

    The U.S. is like this bumbling idiot god that just causes destruction wherever it goes, including in Vietnam. France, while still evil, at least introduced some cultural elements that have become a part of everyday life.

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Eeeh that sounds dangerously similar to "oh the british empire was good cuz Civilization(TM)"

      • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        For sure, but it's also just a consequence of prolonged imperialism: the conquering culture gets rolled into the conquered culture, to the point where it's normalized for people living in the aftermath of conquest.

        Like for better or worse Bahn mi and Catholicism and Latin script are all part of Vietnamese culture now, and the people I've talked to encounter it in their daily lives. But they're not old enough to remember the brutality of French Indochina.

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Makes sense, lots of white people are like "oh cool Latin, the smarty pants language" forgetting that time Italians raped everybody for 1000 years

      • Blakey [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        dunno how the anti-french resistance war stacks up against the American war, but the latter had the us dumping cluster bombs, agent orange and napalm on villages, is far more recent, made uninvolved neighbor Laos the most bombed country on earth and still maims and kills people across se Asia to this day (those pesky cluster bombs again!) Not shocking that some people might be more bothered by the more recent experience - people are happier about banh mi than birth defects.

        I am also leery of arguing against the expressed opinion of actual Vietnamese people on which they consider to be worse.

  • Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    3 years ago

    Aren’t African countries still paying France for the right to exist or some awful shit like that?

    Also let’s not forget how France supported the Rwandan genocide then helped the largest perpetrators escape.