of course even white westerners here still simp for him after he's said multiple times how proud he was to help destroy our countries. Fuck the troops all day.

  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I mean you could have called him out on it by asking him how he squares ACAB with having been part of the pointy end of the imperialist machine but that'd require you to not uselessly moralize on the subject, right? I mean it's not like you could have also been virtue signaling yourself, because you're clearly The One True Leftist™

      • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Well it's not even calling Carter out in his past, it's literally just moralizing. To me, calling someone out means you expect some type of response from the person you're calling out, and OP clearly didn't.

          • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Yeah but it's pretty clear that pointing out hypocrisy is lib shit and noone cares about hypocrisy.

                  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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                    3 years ago

                    Why would he even try though? It's pretty clear from the OP's reply that it's a waste of time for him to do so. The dunk is getting ignored?

                      • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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                        3 years ago

                        Alright - so what if that lib rightly believes that it's true? What does that do? Will they somehow decide to vote for left candidates for office? Electoral politics is pushing rope in a lot of ways, but it's also something where the personal morality of the candidate isn't even a factor beyond disqualifying things, and being a baby-killer isn't one of those in the US. Put the shittiest bastard on earth in office if they can forward my political goals.

                          • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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                            3 years ago

                            i don’t really know what you’re arguing here, are you arguing against liberals moving further left? is that not a good thing?

                            No, moving people left is a good thing - I didn't mean to make that as muddled as I did

                            we’re talking about an electoralist who pretends to be on the left not being able to defend themselves or even realize that they too are/were at some point in their lives, a fucking bastard.

                            My comments weren't all that well thought out - I haven't been following Carter closely enough to know exactly what he's said about his service, but I do know it's sort of worthless electorally to admit he was a bastard. Should he? Yes, absolutely, but if it doesn't play with his constituents, and it's only for the very online leftists, then it's a waste of time.

                            personal morality is the only factor when it comes to representation.

                            Who's he representing? The left as a whole? Did he claim to do that? Did The Squad ever claim to do that? Will socialism get support because all the elected representatives pushing left are paragons of virtue? I don't think it will. Having someone say "yes, I'm a socialist and I got you this school breakfast program/addiction treatment center/school funding" very well could.

          • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Buddy, you have no idea who you're talking to. I'm the top mod of r/politics. I know every line from the West Wing. I have every Democratic presidential campaign logo since Mondale tattooed on every inch of my body. I played the lead role in Hamilton for a Warren fundraiser at my community theater in blackface, and was given a standing ovation. Now you better show some civility and apologize before I ban your ass from here to Pret a Manger.