The farther a line is from the center, the worse the drug (generally) is.

Edit: People have pointed out numerous times that some displayed stimulants, though ranking fairly low here, have a large potential for accidental overdosage. Don't take it as gospel, everything has risks that can't be easily plotted.

The chart was made using data from this 2007 Lancet study. It's not perfect, as drug reactions vary wildly between people and the "social harm" green line incorporates the opinions of pigs. It's definitely one of the better risk assessment tools out there since it doesn't incorporate ridiculous drug policies. Here is an alternate mapping.

For many drugs, the "experimental" stage of use can rapidly enter dependency. Keep this in mind.

Made in reaction to this post where a comrade outlines family struggles with drug abuse, and how it's irresponsible to glorify drugs and alcohol. Use this chart to determine which drugs to glorify instead.

  • unperson [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "social harm” green line incorporates the opinions of pigs

    Ohh that explains why GHB

    cw sa

    which is mixed with alcohol to sedate people without their consent and rape them

    is lower than cannabis.

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    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      All these charts are kind of weird because there are many different kinds of harm to consider. Tobacco is low probably because you can't realistically die of tobacco overdose. Idk about benzos. But yeah generally these rankings don't say very much after a certain point, you actually have to look at the specifics.

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        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          but it may be difficult to do so by smoking it

          Yes, this is about tobacco, it is very hard to get an overdose by smoking.

          Benzos and alcohol combined can also kill you, though on their own I think it is hard to die from the drug.

          People do die from acute alcohol intoxication a lot, although not as much proportionally compared to some of the other drugs on the list (also it's often because of bad alcohol). Alcohol poisoning in general is kind of common though (although not frequently fatal) and I think this might be part of why alcohol is high in terms of harm, more than tobacco for instance.

          I didn't know about benzos, I realized how bad they are when I saw the Jordan Peterson thing.

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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    What is social harm defined as in this study?

    • Melon [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Many drugs cause major damage to the family, either because of the ef f ect of intoxication or because they distort the motivations of users, taking them away from their families and into drug-related activities, including crime. Societal damage also occurs through the immense health-care costs of some drugs. Tobacco is estimated to cause up to 40% of all hospital illness and 60% of drug-related fatalities. Alcohol is involved in over half of all visits to accident and emergency departments and orthopaedic admissions.

      To some degree, it seems like a popularity contest. It also mentioned how intravenously distributed drugs, like heroin, contribute to the AIDS epidemic (and thus is a social harm).

      So, to answer your question, it defines social harms rather sloppily by combining measurable public health effects with criminality in a single statistic.

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Mmm that's what I thought, sloppy definition. The difference between solvents dependence and physical harm vs social harm made me think it was probably a messy definition.

  • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Oh, wow, ecstasy is a lot less scary than I thought it was.

    • Melon [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      This study might not properly incorporate the health risks of large dosages though. People could die from using a lot of what may be considered a "mild" stimulant, whereas smoking weed doesn't carry the same potential for abuse.

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  • LibsEatPoop [any]
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    3 years ago

    Oh damn heroin is a lot deadlier than I thought it was...

  • 4_AOC_DMT [any]
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    3 years ago

    I don't feel super into reading the paper you linked, so hopefully you can answerthis question for me: are the authors assuming methylphenidate is used as prescribed or are they comparing the relative risk of dependence of LSD to that of crushing methylphenidate to break the time release and taking like 100mg (as opposed to taking the prescribed amount)?

    • Melon [she/her,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The study is essentially a short survey of medical experts, just a few pages long, and it doesn't get into the specific justifications for plotting drugs where they are.

      In short, it found that surveyed medical and psychiatric professionals tend to closely agree on relative health and dependency risks. Those individual specialists probably considered various risks in administration for their own analyses (for example, the study mentioned that drugs involving needle use are especially bad), but those specific judgements are not covered extensively.

      The study concerns itself with potential for drug abuse, so if something here is legally prescribed I'd recommend simply following your doctor's instructions and not worry too much about how it's parked by LSD in this graph. Not everything can be cleanly compared, many of these drugs are very different from others.

    • dead [he/him]
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      Poppers (alkyl nitrite) use has a relaxation effect on involuntary smooth muscles, such as those in the throat and anus.[1][2] It is used for practical purposes to facilitate anal sex by increasing blood flow and relaxing sphincter muscles.[3]
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poppers

      • sappho [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        The drug is also used for recreational drug purposes, typically for the "high" or "rush" that the drug can create.

        It makes your head feel like it's gonna pop like a balloon!

        They are really fun when combined with weed or psychedelics, except you don't really know what chemical you're buying for sure and some can cause retinal damage. Gave them up once I learned that

    • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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      I believe it's some kind of plant that you chew, popular in places like Somalia and among immigrants from those regions and thus something that European chuds and politicians like to get extra worked up about

      Muslim weed is even more scary than normal white people weed

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        thus something that European chuds and politicians like to get extra worked up about

        I live in (sort of) Europe and I've never heard about it ever, other than seeing it on these charts every now and then. Sounds cute though.

    • sagarmatha [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      needs to be fresh so hardly exported apart from to migrant communities of Yemen and the horn of Africa, is as mild a drug as can be but was recently forbidden in western countries, because of course it was, we can't have nice things

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
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      3 years ago

      sort of like tobacco (gives a mild buzz) but you chew the leaves. It's popular in east Africa

  • Des [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    looks like natural cathinone should be the non-caffine stimulant of choice for most