The link at the start is this post.

Since this is long, I will summarise the key points:

  1. The mod team argues that being gay or trans is not biologically based, they argue it is caused by environmental factors caused by capitalism and bourgeoise ideology.

  2. The mod team argues being LGBT is a choice.

  3. The mod team argues that LGBT people should be thrown under a bus because they're just 6% of the population who get in the way of popular support with the remaining 94% of the population.

  4. The mod team argues LGBT identities only gain support in socialist countries when socialism in those countries is declining and collapsing due to bourgeoise ideology.

These seem to be the key things this modteam believes about LGBT people. I haven't misrepresented or exaggerated any of this. I do not have to.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      Their argument isn't "we want to murder them all" (although I do not trust that does not lie underneath) but that they believe environmental changes in society would cease to produce LGBT people altogether thus reducing them to 0% in the longterm.

      • Rem [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        "The withering away of the state gay " :very-smart:

      • anaesidemus [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        do they say how they would be reduced? Do they not know that animals can also be gay? Are they gonna breed out the gay? This is advanced brainworms!

          • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            in the jungle is where we indiscriminately had sex with anything that moved, including not only people of the same sex but also children, relatives, and non-humans

            Literal "what's next after gay marriage? Fucking your dog or children?"

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            3 years ago

            Yes this is largely why I suspect it to just be outright reactionary homophobia hedged inside marxist language and arguments. Also why I don't really trust that they would not harm lgbt people.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          I assume they mean it would simply disappear over several generations in the correct environmental conditions but have not asked the question.

          • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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            3 years ago

            No it's even dumber. They think homosexuality can't be biological because if it was it would immediately die out because gay people don't reproduce.

            • anaesidemus [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              wow that's crazy, they do not know how genes work.

              also gay people can and do reproduce. They have children before they come out of the closet, they have surrogate mothers, they use donor semen, they can also be bisexual.

              • RealAssHistoryHours [he/him,they/them]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah, I went over there a few minutes ago, because I hate myself and someone posted an article about Lysenko and they're saying the gene is a "metaphysical concept."

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                3 years ago

                I forget where I read about it but there was some article that stated that evolutionary processes could also explain that people who don't necessarily reproduce themselves could also have an evolutionary advantage to a species by being a sort of beneficial support system. If you have more adults that don't necessarily reproduce themselves, that they also contribute to the health of the species as a whole in supportive roles. Just because someone doesn't bare children doesn't mean they can't help the survival of the children of other members of their family/tribe/etc.

                • CrimsonSage [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  Ah yes the famously non-biological 'choice' of human behavior, you know that thing that completely isn't an emergent property of a highly complex biological phenomenon. Yep no biology there, just pure disembodied thinking energy making choices.

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I'll take "Shit I believed when I used to listen to loveline with Adam Carolla when I was like 14" Alex