I dunno, I've just noticed little comments and things here and there on Chapo and TrueAnon for example that kinda gives me the impression that they either don't take the subject seriously or don't care.
I dunno, I've just noticed little comments and things here and there on Chapo and TrueAnon for example that kinda gives me the impression that they either don't take the subject seriously or don't care.
This reads like irony, but I'll presume you're serious.
What association with ableism does respecting furries carry beyond tolerance for culture/experiences you don't understand? I assume the Venn diagram of ableists and anti-furry crusaders is approximately a circle, but I don't think its particularly more predictive than being any other type of closed-minded shitbag.
Furries don't deserve the hate they receive and should be respected as anyone else, but I'm not sure I feel right elevating respect for a fairly expensive, niche hobby to "liberation". I'm neurodivergent, and I'd be pretty peeved if someone likened my struggles to wearing a costume.
I think we found the new struggle session to tear the site apart over
I had that thought while typing that comment lmao
This would be an old struggle session, we already had a furry struggle session in the discord before the site was finished.
Discord don't count. That's a separate beast from the site
Please no. I just went away for a while because of the annoying car battery meme. Could we just get a /c/strugglesession so it can at least be contained?
Don't run away from the posting wars you charge head first into the trenches of the posting wars ya daffodile, if you don't like a meme you outmeme it with your own memes to the point the other memes are outnumbered and out gunned by the ocean of memes you outproduced them in!
I just don't have the fight in me.
I mean, they just said it's a litmus test, IE a good indicator. Ultimately I think it's because the entire case for being anti-furry is simply "it's cringe". There was a good post from an SRA co founder addressing this on their subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/SocialistRA/comments/gczti9/lets_have_a_chat_about_cringe/
How does all that tie into neurodivergency? The neurodivergent are unimaginably more likely to take part in or like activities that those that are not neurodivergent will find unusual, different, and therefore "cringe". This means that the acceptance of one is an extremely strong indicator for the acceptance of the other. The rejection of one is an extremely strong indicator for being a bit of a shit to the other. People react negatively to them for similar reasons, behaviour that is outside of the normal expected social behaviours and norms.
It can be off-putting to some people. Furries aren't a protected class lmfao
Whenever I see someone say "Furries aren't a protected class," the unspoken conclusion is usually "and therefore it's okay to harass them, dox them, sabotage their projects, DDOS their websites, steal their money, and generally just try to make their lives worse."
I'm not saying that's your intent here, but my history with that statement has less-than-good implications.
It's really not.
"I'm not a dog person" doesn't mean I want all dogs to die horribly. This is where some leftists start losing me. It's like how libs like to strawman every criticism of their party.
I'm just not a dog person person.
I think the argument isn't that it isn't off-putting to many, but rather it would best serve our comrades & thus our efforts by refraining from proclaiming that publicly, especially within leftist spaces.
Is fat-shaming cool too because it's not a protected class?
Yes, I cringe at some things I see too, but why ridicule when I'm the one who doesn't understand it?
No I understand it. I just don't care for it.
Agreed. That was a great post and definitely exemplifies how we alienate comrades. It's punishing people who deviate from social norms, which is ultimately reactionary.
She said the best litmus test, and I don't see it as any more of an indicator than most other reactionary views. Given there's a non negligible number of typically not ableist leftists who call furry stuff cringe, I would've argued it's less indicative had you not made a solid argument as to why neurodivergence would be more prevalent in communities like furries.
Neurodivergence is also empirically more represented in the furry community for that matter. Off the top of my head, furries are something like 4 times more likely to have autism. It's also a majority queer community (if we consider that to either be neurodivergence or to otherwise be relevant for the same reasons) with only about 20% of the fandom identifying as heterosexual.
It's not that they are more disadvantaged or anything, it's just a vibe to judge the person being a dick to them.