Even ignoring the Vietnam War allegory in the OT, the first prequel series episode was literally a movie about a trade embargo? There was a galactic senate where people debated?? Like very literally a political movie.
Whole message of the prequels was that crises (all manufactured by Palpatine for simplicity) could persuade people to vote to give up their “democracy” in favor of security.
The prequels were about liberalism's decay into fascism. The OT was about revolutionary resistance to fascism.
Then Disney bought it and wrote them as trying to reinstate liberalism only for it to decay into fascism again, so the sequels were about fighting fascism again in order to reinstate liberalism again.
I read Andor's rebels as a surge of popular discontent against Imperial rule that got hijacked by the deposed ruling class into a movement to restore the old shitty system instead of actually effective change.
It's pretty good. Main character is loosely based on Young Stalin. There's a great speech by Space Lenin that directly quotes Brecht and Gramsci (Gramsci gets a few other quote drops too.)
"The pace of repression outstrips our ability to understand it" comes to mind. Though now that you mention it that might be from Anderson's "Antinomies" critique of Gramsci.
By the time of 9 they are not even talking about restoring liberalism or the pretense of democracy again. It is just the rebellion. The rebels become totally apolitical, thus Abrams keeps the franchise in an eternal state of rebels vs empire like he is a kid playing with toys reenacting the OT over and over again
thus Abrams keeps the franchise in an eternal state of rebels vs empire like he is a kid playing with toys reenacting the OT over and over again
He's the worst kind of uncreative brat in the neighborhood, the kind that bashes the toys together until they break (killing off characters and undoing any changes that they had established) and scratches his name on stuff that was never his (like the not-Tatooine "Jakuu" and the not-Corsucant "Hosnian Prime" that was almost Coruscant until the suits said he can't quite break that toy, and the not-Empire "First Order" and the not-Rebellion "Resistance" and don't get me started on the not-Sith "Knights of Ren.").
Even ignoring the Vietnam War allegory in the OT, the first prequel series episode was literally a movie about a trade embargo? There was a galactic senate where people debated?? Like very literally a political movie.
Whole message of the prequels was that crises (all manufactured by Palpatine for simplicity) could persuade people to vote to give up their “democracy” in favor of security.
The prequels were about liberalism's decay into fascism. The OT was about revolutionary resistance to fascism.
Then Disney bought it and wrote them as trying to reinstate liberalism only for it to decay into fascism again, so the sequels were about fighting fascism again in order to reinstate liberalism again.
At least we have Andor where it's clear most of the Rebels are revolutionaries that get ratfucked by Mon Mothma and her libs.
I read Andor's rebels as a surge of popular discontent against Imperial rule that got hijacked by the deposed ruling class into a movement to restore the old shitty system instead of actually effective change.
Damn I gotta watch that.
It's pretty good. Main character is loosely based on Young Stalin. There's a great speech by Space Lenin that directly quotes Brecht and Gramsci (Gramsci gets a few other quote drops too.)
What are the Gramsci quotes in Andor?
"The pace of repression outstrips our ability to understand it" comes to mind. Though now that you mention it that might be from Anderson's "Antinomies" critique of Gramsci.
By the time of 9 they are not even talking about restoring liberalism or the pretense of democracy again. It is just the rebellion. The rebels become totally apolitical, thus Abrams keeps the franchise in an eternal state of rebels vs empire like he is a kid playing with toys reenacting the OT over and over again
He's the worst kind of uncreative brat in the neighborhood, the kind that bashes the toys together until they break (killing off characters and undoing any changes that they had established) and scratches his name on stuff that was never his (like the not-Tatooine "Jakuu" and the not-Corsucant "Hosnian Prime" that was almost Coruscant until the suits said he can't quite break that toy, and the not-Empire "First Order" and the not-Rebellion "Resistance" and don't get me started on the not-Sith "Knights of Ren.").
i thought the "knights of ren" were another shitty side gig like they made a bunch of in the comic books, except worse and less thought out.