It kinda seems like they’re just some fuckin YouTube dorks. I’m not really sure why everyone is acting like they’re a big deal.
It kinda seems like they’re just some fuckin YouTube dorks. I’m not really sure why everyone is acting like they’re a big deal.
Necessary Seder - Crowder Lore
Politicon: Crowder had been scheduled to appear at PolitiCon. Seder was invited to come but agreed only on the condition that he could debate someone. He suggested Crowder and Crowder instantly stopped answering PolitiCon's emails. The event scheduler says that crowder got "Cold feet". The "Cold feet" meme is born.
The Challenge: Sam Seder issues an open debate challenge to Crowder which births this truly top-tier meme.
McInnes: Gavin McInnes (a white supremacist) wants Seder to appear on his show. Seder would normally refuse but McInnes already has Crowder scheduled and McInnes offers the opportunity for a debate. Crowder instantly cancels.
6/14/21: Crowder has a debate scheduled with Ethan Klein. 30 minutes before the debate is scheduled Sam Seder ends his normally scheduled livestream early. Crowder's dad calls Ethan and cancels citing a "medical emergency" with Crowder's pregnant wife. Crowder re-schedules the debate for noon on 6/21/21. The exact time that Sam's daily livestream goes live.
6/21/21: Crowder connects to H3H3 but hides off-screen until Seder's livestream goes live. Only when he thinks it's safe does he sit down on his set. But he's wrong. To quote Crowder "OH NO! It's Sam Seder! What a ... WOW a what a fucking nightmare!" Sam Seder had pre-recorded his live show and managed to fake-out crowder. Crowder shows his whole ass: During Crowder's ensuing sweaty panic he mentions Seder ending his livestream early before the previous debate. Admitting that he has been following What Seder is doing and where he is. Possibly admitting that he used his pregnant wife as a prop to dodge even the chance of running into Seder. Crowder spends a few visibly shook moments on camera and then flees. Damage control: Some hours after the debate Crowder must have pulled in some crazy favors because he suddenly announced an interview with Don Jr. at 7AM the next morning. This announcement of an interview with a major figure came just 14 hours before the interview was scheduled. Crowder is trying to make his fans forget about him getting dunked on.
Okay this is actually pretty funny. Thank you for the low down.
excellent context thank you
But why he want to avoid debating this specific person so bad?
A prime tactic of chuds who operate in the "own libs" gifting industry is to only engage with nervous college students or complete idiots. Sam Seder, while politically a milquetoast social democrat, is a well spoken adult who is quite good at concisely breaking down chud ideology into the bullshit it is. So Crowder can't speak to Seder and be exposed as a babbling idiot.
Because he only wants to "debate" people that he thinks are beneath him.
He wants "layups" which is what he called a debate with Klein, which prompted him to call in Seder.
No clue