Til' then the world's just gonna be allowed to burn basically unabetted by the people in charge?

  • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    My vote is no. I am certain that the Pentagon knows how bad the climate situation will get. I am almost certain that they’ve done the necropolitics and know that as long as the climate crisis is distributed across the country / planet, people will watch one another die with a somber expression and a Starbucks in their hand.

    This, combined with a captive media system that gives people cope and theater, means that we are looking at some extremely grim times ahead.

    • mr_world [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      During the cold war people at RAND and within the government had already gamed out nuclear confrontation. They had already figured it was okay to pre-emptively strike the USSR and deal with the fallout. They knew that a lot of places would be bad but there could still be enough for them and their families to live a relatively normal life. They admitted as much on national TV.

      They definitely have already done the math on this and have made plans for most of us to die. They know who to save and what places must be preserved for strategic purposes. I'm sure they're already stockpiling water reserves for the government and contractors.

      We're all expendable and part of a game. Don't think for a minute that they must preserve most of us, or all of us, for our labor. There are levels of survival they're willing to accept including one with no poor people pack mules.

      • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yup. The cringiest whitest thing I've ever heard is from r/collapse, which goes something like

        me: "the rich are going to fuck off to their bunkers when shit hits the fan, and many of us will die overnight"

        r*dditors: "b-b-but without THE REST OF US, they won't have any WORKERS powering their civilization heh"

        It's like these guys are actually incapable of imagining the elites hunting their own animals or doing literally anything outside of exploiting labor. It's as if they really think the elites will die if they aren't exploiting other humans, and that they lack the ability to finger a trigger and shoot a deer.

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Eh, I look at ultra-wealthy people and I honestly don't think many of them would actually be capable of hunting well enough to survive (not to mention there probably won't be much to hunt). Remember all those articles from a couple years back about billionaires trying to figure out how to keep the staff in their bunkers in line after shit really hits the fan? They're not planning on doing the grunt work.

          • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            those articles from a couple years back about billionaires trying to figure out how to keep the staff in their bunkers in line after shit really hits the fan? They’re not planning on doing the grunt work.

            just because a few of them aren't doesn't mean all of them aren't

            there probably won’t be much to hunt

            there'll be plenty...in the unpopulated areas where they built their bunkers.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's been a while since I watched this talk , but IIRC he goes over how all of the major militaries have plans for dealing with climate change and they do not involve substantial societal change.