That's hardly "giving it back" then. No shit they should be given heavy reparations and self determination, but telling an individual to "give it back" is just dumb.
Like the comment below about the person's dad who immigrated to escape the Holocaust. She doesn't have to get that through to him because there's nothing that he personally needs to give back.
yea individual action is :haram: pretty pointless when it comes to Land Back, especially with the feds continuing to entrap lands that individuals have tried to return to indigenous communities.
Yeah it seems best taken as an abstract moral injunction that should be enacted through something like collectivization/redistribution of private property or more realistically just wealth/income, with a focus on giving disproportionately to the indigenous. Giving someone a fake ownership of "land" without displacing hundreds of millions (which is btw a comforting fantasy), instead of the means of production or money, seems less helpful. Sure they should have total control of the concentration camps the US put them in, that's hardly 'giving them back their land,' the slogan becomes totally meaningless then. Better and more achievable to give them the greater part of the means of production. Would love to hear criticism
Tldr: 'Land back' seems billed as righting the wrongs done to indigenous peoples by giving them their land back. And if it ends up being white liberals giving an extremely poor set of the population some undeveloped, barren plot of federal land, then it is mere appeasement, not for indigenous but for the liberals.
Basically every struggle currently existing in the world has taken some form of socialism as it's solution. No one wants to go back to primitive tribal life or destroy all technology. They want equitable and just living. They want the end to colonial and imperial oppression.
That's hardly "giving it back" then. No shit they should be given heavy reparations and self determination, but telling an individual to "give it back" is just dumb.
Like the comment below about the person's dad who immigrated to escape the Holocaust. She doesn't have to get that through to him because there's nothing that he personally needs to give back.
yea individual action is :haram: pretty pointless when it comes to Land Back, especially with the feds continuing to entrap lands that individuals have tried to return to indigenous communities.
Yeah it seems best taken as an abstract moral injunction that should be enacted through something like collectivization/redistribution of private property or more realistically just wealth/income, with a focus on giving disproportionately to the indigenous. Giving someone a fake ownership of "land" without displacing hundreds of millions (which is btw a comforting fantasy), instead of the means of production or money, seems less helpful. Sure they should have total control of the concentration camps the US put them in, that's hardly 'giving them back their land,' the slogan becomes totally meaningless then. Better and more achievable to give them the greater part of the means of production. Would love to hear criticism
Tldr: 'Land back' seems billed as righting the wrongs done to indigenous peoples by giving them their land back. And if it ends up being white liberals giving an extremely poor set of the population some undeveloped, barren plot of federal land, then it is mere appeasement, not for indigenous but for the liberals.
Basically every struggle currently existing in the world has taken some form of socialism as it's solution. No one wants to go back to primitive tribal life or destroy all technology. They want equitable and just living. They want the end to colonial and imperial oppression.
They want fucking communism, same as us.
Great I am in full support