A lot of countries are currently on their "the US does it! We can too!" tour and I gotta say... seems like a poorly thought out path. To say the least. Relying on US power projection when the US is in an ever-deepening decline in that power which can be projected...
That’s true, but Ukraine also relies on China for importing goods into the country. If you look on alibaba for military gear, you can find reviews from both Russian and Ukrainian soldiers on the same product lol. Obviously the amount pales in comparison to russian-China trade, but still. If Ukraine is as desperate as it says, then pissing off the country who is willing to do business with all sides seems like a bad idea.
It's not that they're attacking Russian logistics, it's that they're attacking Russia-China railways. China has maintained a mostly neutral position in the war. Giving the strongest economy in the world a reason to declare war on you isn't a smart move. What makes it "American" is the idea you can attack anyone anywhere without consequences.
It's not the kind of attack. It's the fact that they did it at all. Maybe they're trying to draw attention back to Ukraine and cause a reaction from Russia that "justifies" further aid.
I'm not defending Ukraine, far from it, but Russia is importing military supplies from China, mostly across a relatively small number of rail lines. Interrupting that flow of goods is for them, a worthwhile endeavour even without any propaganda outcome, the same as disabling railways between Ukraine and Poland would be for Russia.
I don't disagree. In a hypothetical long list of targets for Ukraine to strike, this is probably one of the "best" ones since it's clearly a valid military target against a nation currently invading them (agree or disagree on justification, it's an event that is happening).
It just also feels like a possible escalation when (naively, apparently) I thought, or last I saw, Ukraine and Russia were starting on some sort of peace agreement. Admittedly, I haven't read up much on Ukraine in a couple months. I hope they are still working on an agreement and this doesn't ruin anything.
if Russia were having logistical issues that China was alleviating? Justice is probably equating it more to an impression of limitless projection of power, but even if Ukraine were able to consistently hit China-Russia trade, it wouldn't mean jack to the bread-and-butter at the front
Ukraine thinks it's America or some shit
Israel thinks it's America
A lot of countries are currently on their "the US does it! We can too!" tour and I gotta say... seems like a poorly thought out path. To say the least. Relying on US power projection when the US is in an ever-deepening decline in that power which can be projected...
In the fuck around phase and soon to enter the find out phase...
Attacking logistics is a strategy as old as war, it's not something unique to America.
That’s true, but Ukraine also relies on China for importing goods into the country. If you look on alibaba for military gear, you can find reviews from both Russian and Ukrainian soldiers on the same product lol. Obviously the amount pales in comparison to russian-China trade, but still. If Ukraine is as desperate as it says, then pissing off the country who is willing to do business with all sides seems like a bad idea.
That's probably because it was NATO's
ideademandIt's not that they're attacking Russian logistics, it's that they're attacking Russia-China railways. China has maintained a mostly neutral position in the war. Giving the strongest economy in the world a reason to declare war on you isn't a smart move. What makes it "American" is the idea you can attack anyone anywhere without consequences.
Attacking russian railways inside of Russia while Ukraine is at war with Russia is not a reason for China to declare war on Ukraine.
It's reason for a nationalistic intern at DJI to make all the drones Ukraine uses do something funny.
It's not the kind of attack. It's the fact that they did it at all. Maybe they're trying to draw attention back to Ukraine and cause a reaction from Russia that "justifies" further aid.
I'm not defending Ukraine, far from it, but Russia is importing military supplies from China, mostly across a relatively small number of rail lines. Interrupting that flow of goods is for them, a worthwhile endeavour even without any propaganda outcome, the same as disabling railways between Ukraine and Poland would be for Russia.
I don't disagree. In a hypothetical long list of targets for Ukraine to strike, this is probably one of the "best" ones since it's clearly a valid military target against a nation currently invading them (agree or disagree on justification, it's an event that is happening).
It just also feels like a possible escalation when (naively, apparently) I thought, or last I saw, Ukraine and Russia were starting on some sort of peace agreement. Admittedly, I haven't read up much on Ukraine in a couple months. I hope they are still working on an agreement and this doesn't ruin anything.
if Russia were having logistical issues that China was alleviating? Justice is probably equating it more to an impression of limitless projection of power, but even if Ukraine were able to consistently hit China-Russia trade, it wouldn't mean jack to the bread-and-butter at the front