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  • jabrd [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    And then you have me, a true intellectual, who only chuckled at the post and then moved along without commenting :sartre-pipe:

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Oh fuck and I was just about to jump into my teleporter, thanks everyone for helping me settle this very important question for me.

      • Pezevenk [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        No, we in fact haven't. There is only quantum teleportation which is a different thing but that doesn't stop pop sci articles ftom making clickbait headlines.

          • Pezevenk [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            To scale it up you would have to basically create an exact duplicate of your body and then somehow entangle all the molecules of that duplicate to those of your body, somehow maintain that entanglement, and oh god I'm getting a headache even thinking of all the different extremely implausible things you would have to do. If there is some other mechanism that somehow allows for teleportation who knows, but quantum teleportation isn't really gonna scale up.

  • Catherine_Steward [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    :downbear: This post is just unnecessarily bullying comrades for not agreeing with you about a dumb hypothetical. It should be removed.

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I seem to have missed a wonderful struggle session, but the question is moot. GM, Ford, Exxon and Chevron will never let us have teleporters.

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        I just don't see the point of this thread to rag on answers you don't personally agree with, what is it supposed to achieve? It's very toxic behavior and actively discourages activity in this community because, god forbid, someone gives a "reddit answer" (???????) and get dragged in a screenshot by the person who asked them in the first place.

          • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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            3 years ago

            It's pretty lib to assume that you have achieved absolute enlightenment on a given subject and then to think that your hypothetical is important enough to screenshot a bunch of people who don't agree with you when this technology is unlikely to ever exist at all. You seem like you need to log off if this shit gets you this worked up. You posed a question in a philosophy comm. Be prepared for bad takes and stubborn people. Why poke the nest if you can't handle it?

              • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                3 years ago

                You therefore then need to allow for other people to disagree with you even if you present your arguments.

                I don't hate you, so relax - I don't know who you are; this is just bad behavior in a small community. I have no interest in refuting you because a) this technology will never exist and b) you are correct, if it did exist it would be a murder machine.

                This is not a good way to act or engage, and getting this invested is clearly doing you some psychological harm. You need to let people on the internet be wrong and not lose your head or start fights over it, for your own sake.

                  • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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                    3 years ago

                    You do it because you were raised in a global death cult called capitalism that manifests itself as self-destructive behaviors. That's ok; we all do that to some extent or another. But you know you shouldn't, and you should make your best effort to exercise patience and restraint in accordance with that part of yourself that says, "hold on, this seems like a pointless waste of time that will only cause me more anxiety".

                    Don't beat yourself up so much. Also, don't make yourself the main character so much; people aren't disagreeing because they hate you or whatever. You're just another person who they barely perceive, like you barely perceive most people you interact with. And that's fine.

                    Log off and eat an apple or something.

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Joke's on you, I've played SOMA and thus came to terms with my consciousness as of a certain point in time being placed within another body being a totally separate individual entity but it's cool years ago

  • JuneFall [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I will do reddit take:

    The question of "you" is wrong, the question is about the social relations and ideology. If for the sake of the argument the social relations accept you as you and you are forced to pull levers to sell your labour to survive what difference does it make?

    The simulacra is the simulation and so on (if you remain a worker afterwards capitalism is fine with you pulling the lever)

    Furthermore the ideology of capitalism is it which gives the fictive self the ultimate worth of being unique! Neither self is the true self, as such a thing doesn't exist like human nature exists, however humans do exist, but they always do so in specific social relations and in specific individualitys.

    The true uniqueness and freedom of expression can not be achieved on any side of the lever but only outside of the system of levers - as Marx said in capital volume three.

      • JuneFall [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I say it is a mind game if you think about stuff that is related to the lever. If you don't look at the social structure and the material conditions (I changed a bit in my original text).

        Whatever "choice" you take you in regards to lever pulling - you are pushed in the current system to pull levers and that system you can't escape from and neither can post-lever-you escape that capitalism (at least not on their own).

        The idea of how unique we as individuals are of course has tradition but the specific way of that you do exist in capitalism to consume and to fulfill your desires is very specific and increases the "you ought to not pull the lever" vibes.

        However if it is for work then of course you ought to pull it -says capitalism.

        Fascism did say: if it is for the nation pull the lever and keep pulling.

        In socialism we will not create structures which just kill people for no reason. Also we know thanks to the Tschernobyl engineers and the red army that no sacrifice is too great to be done for the good of our comrades and those who need us to defend them - as we need them to defend us.

        just the idea that someone dies in the process lmao

        It is funny

  • comi [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    why not, people have fun it seems. browse by hot, and you'll skip all interesting threads apparently :(

  • DeathToBritain [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    unnecessarily toxic honestly. people are allowed to give pop philosophy answers in a casual online discussion about a hypothetical which literally doesn't matter, you don't have to be an asshole about it

  • Bolshy [any]
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    3 years ago

    This is a hypothetical machine why is it being used as a horror dystopic piece?

  • CoconutOctopus [it/its]
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    3 years ago

    I would personally step into the disintegration machine even if it didn't make a copy of me on the other side. More so, even.