Ok, dunk maybe isn't the best word to use here, you really got me. :debate-me-debate-me:
But indulge me for a second and lets actually address the substance of my criticism.
There are no women on the internet is an ancient 4chan meme, and a cornerstone of toxic online culture. It's been used to marginalize non-(cis)men and make them feel excluded. While reddit is not as crass as posting "tits or GTFO", it's very much in the spirit of the site to simply assume you're talking to a guy. A census poll in an (ostensibly) socialist sub going "So tell us about your penis" is a shadow of that, and I'm sure having to check the square that basically says "No, I'm actually one of those other ones. You know? The political ones?" will be off putting to at least some people. Re: your explanation how you can give silly answers to the question, that's really not how online polls are usually done.
The issues with a question like that and trans and non-binary people should be self-evident, and waving it away with "it's just a joke bro" really doesn't pass the sniff test for me. While I've talked to quite a few who are happy to make girl-dick jokes, I've also been called out by ones who're not yet at a place of comfort on this, and may well never be. Springing that shit on them in a census poll (because we're not talking about a shit-posting subreddit here, remember?) is bad.
And finally, I'd like to point out that in a post making fun of /r/socialism being full of "extremely young/actual children" proposing that mods ask them about their genitals is just super cool and normal. Even as a joke.
The issues with a question like that and trans and non-binary people should be self-evident, and waving it away with “it’s just a joke bro” really doesn’t pass the sniff test for me.
I understand what you're saying. And I'll concede that I could have come up with a more gender neutral snarky "bullshit detection question".
But getting from "obviously juvenile dick humor" to "a verbal assault on the trans community" isn't self-evident.
And finally, I’d like to point out that in a post making fun of /r/socialism being full of “extremely young/actual children” proposing that mods ask them about their genitals is just super cool and normal. Even as a joke.
Anyone in the community that popularized "pig pooping on its own balls" imagery has very little room to critique the maturity of others.
has very little room to critique the maturity of others.
You have some serious issues with reading comprehension if you think this was the thrust of my response to you. Let me spell it out for you: Asking minors about their junk, even as a joke, is weird and creepy.
Not only that, but let's also acknowledge the massive bad faith in play here as he alleges that this thing that he appended to his third reply to you:
And finally, I’d like to point out that in a post making fun of /r/socialism being full of “extremely young/actual children” proposing that mods ask them about their genitals is just super cool and normal. Even as a joke.
somehow constituted "the thrust of [his] response to you."
Ok, dunk maybe isn't the best word to use here, you really got me. :debate-me-debate-me:
But indulge me for a second and lets actually address the substance of my criticism.
There are no women on the internet is an ancient 4chan meme, and a cornerstone of toxic online culture. It's been used to marginalize non-(cis)men and make them feel excluded. While reddit is not as crass as posting "tits or GTFO", it's very much in the spirit of the site to simply assume you're talking to a guy. A census poll in an (ostensibly) socialist sub going "So tell us about your penis" is a shadow of that, and I'm sure having to check the square that basically says "No, I'm actually one of those other ones. You know? The political ones?" will be off putting to at least some people. Re: your explanation how you can give silly answers to the question, that's really not how online polls are usually done.
The issues with a question like that and trans and non-binary people should be self-evident, and waving it away with "it's just a joke bro" really doesn't pass the sniff test for me. While I've talked to quite a few who are happy to make girl-dick jokes, I've also been called out by ones who're not yet at a place of comfort on this, and may well never be. Springing that shit on them in a census poll (because we're not talking about a shit-posting subreddit here, remember?) is bad.
And finally, I'd like to point out that in a post making fun of /r/socialism being full of "extremely young/actual children" proposing that mods ask them about their genitals is just super cool and normal. Even as a joke.
I understand what you're saying. And I'll concede that I could have come up with a more gender neutral snarky "bullshit detection question".
But getting from "obviously juvenile dick humor" to "a verbal assault on the trans community" isn't self-evident.
Anyone in the community that popularized "pig pooping on its own balls" imagery has very little room to critique the maturity of others.
You have some serious issues with reading comprehension if you think this was the thrust of my response to you. Let me spell it out for you: Asking minors about their junk, even as a joke, is weird and creepy.
Ah. So dick jokes on the internet are now :epstein: because children might see them.
Not only that, but let's also acknowledge the massive bad faith in play here as he alleges that this thing that he appended to his third reply to you:
somehow constituted "the thrust of [his] response to you."
Of course not. Which of course makes them appropriate in any and all situations, even census polls for socialist subs.
I think I'm about done with your reddit-brained debate bro nonsense. Have a PPB, which is appropriate because this is a shitposting site:
:PIGPOOPBALLS: