• Jeff_Benzos [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      That's literally what it means to not be allowed to do something jfc i hate libertarians so much

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        3 years ago

        Libertarians think freedom is when you're punished by a Libertarian and tyranny is when you're punished by a non-Libertarian.

        Also, look out for Fake Libertarians as they obviously don't count. But you can trust me. I'm legit.

    • mittens [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      as long as it's not explicitly forbidden, you can do whatever you want.

      • SiskoDid2ThingsWrong [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        I mean even if you are forbidden you can still do it, you’re just in deep shit if the wrong person sees you do it.

        Technically everyone is totally free to do whatever the hell they want if they can deal with the consequences. This is why “freedom of X doesn’t mean freedom from consequences” is a stupid saying, politically speaking having a “freedom” means being free of certain consequences.

        • mittens [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          the context is a section of zizek's sublime object, which also gets frequently repeated in other zizek works, particularly pervert's guide to ideology portion on sound of music. it's not that evangelists (particularly evangelists) are free to do whatever they want. instead they work with the idea that what's forbidden is explicit and well-marked, which stands in contrast to the postmodern condition where there's a set of fuzzy cultural mores which should or should not be observed which should mean we are allowed more freedom, instead in practice we have the burden of anxiously examining and re-examining our own steps, whereas evangelists have that burden removed from their decisions. what's forbidden is forbidden, everything else is allowed, it already has a divine a-ok, so it's ripe for enjoyment. or something to that sense.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      Haha. No! He's supposed to tell you to obey the Roman aristocrats. You'll get a better deal in Heaven, tho. Just keep being good.

      ~ Paul of Tarsus

  • toledosequel [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I always cringe at people saying "Jesus was a socialist" because you can't put modern political labels on a guy who lived 2000 years ago... but to say he was a "libertarian monarchist"...

    Special minds roam the threads of Twitter, folks, special minds

    • Tofu_Lewis [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Libertarian? Yes - in terms of the classical sense of the word - what "libertarian" means now in the US is an utterly incomprehensible shibboleth. Monarchist? This idea rooted in some deep Divine Right theology exploited by feudal monarchs to dominate - stripped of all existential consideration.

      So yes, utterly deranged.

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    is it me or does this give off strong "I was frequently beaten by my parents" energy

    • btbt [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Did that particular mushroom perhaps have a poorly drawn comical face

      • BeanBoy [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        No because mushrooms don’t have poorly drawn comical faces. This is no time for jokes.

  • FunnyUsername [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Do these people have an argument against the idea that free will cannot exist if god exists since he knows and controls everything or do they just ignore it