• RedCoat [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Why would that not just be apple juice, like every other fruit juice? I'll give you guys the lemonade one but calling apple juice cider is weird.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          It's also frequently mulled and drank warm during the fall.

          It tastes at least as much like a bunch of spices as it does like apples.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            All ciders I've had here (Appalachia) are alcoholic. There's a clear distinction between alcoholic and non-alcoholic ciders at the stores and most non-alcoholic ones have mulled recipes that call for rum and spices in them. Mainly because the state still controls liquor here and stores can't sell mulled cider with hard liquor in it (fermented ciders are okay though).

            The kid drink is called apple juice or just juice. Sometimes people call it cider when it's a holiday and it's in a punchbowl, but there's always the kids bowl and the adults bowl that's full of booze.

            • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              I live somewhere in the Midwest, and my biggest experience with cider for sure is the annual harvest festival my small city throws. There's normally a booth selling warm, non-alcoholic, spiced cider by the cup for charity.

              • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Yeah, here all the protestants here do that for church events. Everyone still spikes it though and would not be confused that you said cider has booze in it.

        • OgdenTO [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I'm pretty sure cider is fresh pressed apples, and apple juice is filtered cider.

      • MathVelazquez [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Pretty sure it's because of the prohibition. Apple farms were used mostly for hard cider pre-prohibition, so to compete they started making non-alcoholic cider. Prohibition ended and the term stayed.

      • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        i think it's allowed to be sold as cider if there's nothing added, whereas apple "juice" can and almost certainly does have sugar added. pretty much everything in the US sold as "juice" is like made from extracted concentrates, artificial flavoring and some cheaper, industrial sweetener like HFCS or whatever. i bet the cost of producing cider is like 10x what the cost of producing "juice" is in the US due to subsidies, price supports, and trade imbalances with sugar producing countries.

      • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        In the US, if you get apple juice, you're getting some shit that's been filtered and pasteurized all to hell. The cider is more, idk, natural?

      • ComradeLove [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        If you really want to be confused, next time cider season comes around compare the ingredients of apple juice and cider (they're the same). Maybe different proportions?

          • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            i grew up in cider country and i was so upset when i moved abroad and could never find it.

            I would ask and literally show pictures to people and they would just tell me to get alcoholic cider...

            • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Me too! I tried to explain hot spiced cider and a very nice friend actually made some for me as a surprise but used what I'd call apple juice and it was such a sad replacement for what I was craving, but it was such a kind gesture that I was just like, "oh yummy yummy, just what I was missing!"

              • PeludoPorFavor [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                that's really sweet. those little gestures are so nice, even if they're so horribly wrong LOL

                • TillieNeuen [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  lol I know! It was so kind but at the same time kind of made me miss home more? Such a mix of good and bad feelings! But the kindness is the most important part, when you get right down to it.