• LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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    1 year ago

    Why are trans men allowed to wear lifts but not cis men? Why is it only acceptable for trans people to do gender affirming things but not cis people? Gender dysphoria is not an experience exclusive to trans people, and suggesting otherwise is damaging to people actually understanding the trans experience.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Forgive me, I rescind the pass. No one gets a pass. Beauty standards beyond personal health should be fought rather than reinforced. Some trans men will be short kings and that's okay.

      • booty [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        rat-salute It seems we're in the minority, but I completely agree.

        • commiewithoutorgans [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          It's just kinda utopian to be a naturalist in this case. We live in a social context where beauty is sociologically determined and positioned as a desirable standard, and so attempting to emulate any of those standards is pretty normal. Attempting to say that people SHOULD avoid those is utopian/idealistic. Of course pretty much everyone would prefer a society where beauty standards exist for only that which is entirely determined by our choices (like our conduct or learned knowledge). But that social context is entirely alien to all existing ones.

          We can now of course argue and fight for a world where beauty is unimportant for relationships, but a self-image which doesn't include beauty (which is definitionally socially determined) is impossible. First, beauty as such would have to disappear for this idealist position to be possible.

          Let me know if I'm rambling, been having too many thoughts recently