it is incredibly important to have a state media apparatus that is robust and covers all facets of life, so that INCREDIBLY STUPID PEOPLE DONT HAVE PLATFORMS. like holy fucking shit, on live national tv theyre saying you should confront people who wear masks like theyre the devil! i am 100% down for communist brainwashing at this point. nothing else will work, you just have to tell the stupid people whats what and offer no other opinions. if you dont have a media apparatus, your society will become absolutely unhinged. i want there to be 200 communist tv broadcasts constantly blaring propaganda to drown out any dumbass remarks being made

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    I would point out that there is a cultural/historical element to this beyond just dumb people being selfish, you can look at East Asian countries even neoliberal hell like Japan/SK, a completely different culture where people will gladly wear masks even for a mild cold and I don't think they needed complete control of state media to achieve that. Here is a random article about this.

    Obviously there are historical factors but the point is that just because the US is having to start from square -12513516 doesn't mean these are ideal solutions. I agree that at this point for a society that is built around sacred ideas of freedom and selfishness the solutions definitely need to be drastic.

    But the fundamental premise that you need to protect dumb people from their opinion is more of a temporary thing rather than an absolute concept. You can change culture, and culture will change behaviour regardless of intelligence. The US problem is a culture tailored for capitalist interests. Change that and we will never have to worry about dumb people and their platforms.

    • Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      People in East Asia are used to wearing masks because of frequent respiratory disease outbreaks for decades. In many places they wear them to protect themselves from air pollution actually.

      • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Yes air pollution is definitely a factor(e.g China) but in some cases it predates that, in Japan the habit is even older..

        But the single most important event that elevated masks from being a luxury item to an everyday product for the masses was the Spanish flu, which killed tens of millions around the world between 1918 and 1920.

        In Japan alone, 450,000 perished according to some estimates, with an additional 280,000 believed to have died on the Korean Peninsula and in Taiwan, which were under colonial Japanese rule at the time.

        Saburo Shochi, a famously long-lived academic, was often interviewed about his experience during the pandemic. In a story that ran on Nikkei Medical in 2008, the 90th anniversary of the start of the Spanish flu outbreak, Shochi recalled losing his classmates to “the bad cold.” Shochi said most of his family, including himself, then around 10 years old, caught the disease and were unable to get out of the futon for days. The infectious nature of the virus eventually became known, and people started wearing masks, which seemed to offer protection from the influenza, he said.

        Educational posters from the period feature slogans such as “reckless are those who don’t wear masks.” And for those who couldn’t afford to buy masks, newspapers began giving instructions on how to make them at home, much like the online mask-making tutorials that flourished during Japan’s latest mask shortage.

    • black_mold_futures [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Obviously there are historical factors but

      read Marx, idealist libs

      You can change culture,

      You cannot change the superstructure, it doesn't actually exist outside of the material base.