I love the praise the Dune book series gets on here and on Chapo pod, and dig everything Denis V has done.

Before watching Lynch's Dune, I was hyped up expecting trade wars and discussions of imperialism and resource based economies, but the film didn't really care about that. Then the end kinda implies his godliness and Jihad is a good thing?

Am I missing something? I wan to jump on the hype train!

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Haven't seen the Lynch movie but I love the book. Paul himself wants to do everything in his power to stop the Jihad. He laments losing his friend Stilgar, as now the latter only sees Paul as a God and not himself. It's pretty clear from the book that Paul does not think these are Good Things, but realizes whatever he tries they're going to happen anyway, so he just tries to move things in a way that are the best outcomes for the Fremen within the bounds of what he can do.

    Men make their own history, but they do not make it just as they please; they do not make it under circumstances chosen by themselves, but under circumstances directly encountered, given, and transmitted from the past. The tradition of dead generations weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living.

    I think Dune is actually a great example of that Marx quote above. There's nothing Paul can do to stop the Jihad or his own elevation to Divinity. They were already baked in. All he can do is go along with the tide.

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      3 years ago

      Yes, the whole point of messiah is that Paul is trapped by the future that he sees and is not enough of a monster to follow through. Humanity is doomed to extinction outside the Golden path and it is his son who has the fortitude to take it.

      • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah I love how he rejects his historical role at the end and goes off into the desert to die. Pretty powerful stuff. Ugh I love his arc so much and the way it grafts onto climate change is spooky.