• Pezevenk [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The Chinese vaccines are objectively not as effective.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Even if that's true, they're still much more effective than nothing, which is the alternative the West is offering most of the world.

        • Pezevenk [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Yes, that is true, however they are definitely considerably less effective according to the researches.

            • Pezevenk [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              The researches that the Sinovac producing company conducted and published lol

              • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Did Sinovac also conduct and publish the reports you're basing the efficacy of Western vaccines on?

                Did the Sinovac study actually compare Chinese vaccine effectiveness to Western effectiveness using the same methodology, or are you comparing apples to CIA oranges?

                • Pezevenk [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  ΟΚ got it, vaccines are CIA now apparently. Pointless to continue this convo if you're just going to dismiss every research that has been conducted in multiple countries as CIA like some antivaxxer.

                  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    ΟΚ got it, vaccines are CIA now apparently.

                    If you don't think vaccines serve an arm of American and Western foreign policy then I don't know what to tell you. If you want me to accept that Chinese vaccines are "objectively" less effective then you can point me at a comparative study from a reliable source that isn't in the pocket of the US, or acting for its own bare profit motive.

                    some antivaxxer

                    I think there's some middle ground between anti-vaxx and uncritically accepting the statements of big pharma and the USG when money is involved, but I guess I'm just dumb.

      • vccx [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Don't Pfizer and Moderna have to be stored at like -30°C or something

      • infernalCop [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Sinopharm and Sinovac both offer less protection against mild symptoms than mRNA vaccines, but they are able to prevent death and serious symptoms to a similar degree even against the new variants. All the bombastic headlines scrutinizing Chinese vaccines in the weeks past ignore this.