“Sometimes people say, you know, you’re 78, all that stuff, and you’ve been doing this for a long time — But should I be quitting now? When you look out and you talk to these beautiful, beautiful young people who want to move this country forward in such a decent, humane way, it really does inspire me. And to the degree that I have gotten those folks involved in the political process, yeah, I am very proud of that. I don’t know that I’ve ever done anything in my life more important than that.”

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      Bernie is a Strasserist socdem w/ imperialist characteristics

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Naumann Plenty of Jews sold themselves out in the inter-war period, unfortunately.

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          lol, social democracy is the horseshoe, idiot.

          "productive forces" don't totally make up for class struggle, not if we're doing revolution.

          stop using "mao" as your handle if you don't understand the "key link"

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              imagine saying Strasserism doesn't exist and then calling Mao irrelevant all within a few posts lol

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                  Strasserism isn't actually anti-capitalist, unless you believe Nazis. That's BECAUSE it's anti-communist, and on this point the same is also true of Three Arrows etc. Like I said, the horseshoe is much more concentrated between these two poles. Center-"left" & center-right

                  SocDemocracy merely has dog-whistle smatterings which almost always co-opt & countermand existing revolutionary sentiment in a quickly mobilizing disjointed working class.

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                      I am not fantasizing about executing SocDems, but believe that these fancy pants libs are counting on any serious class-conscious revolution simmering down so that they don't have to watch their more lumpen cohorts execute communists/anarchists. Though it has come down to that before.

                      Perhaps I shouldn't have used the term "Strasserist" specifically for Bernie himself, but the same can't be said of the movement as a whole. Some of these SocDems, of which Strasserism was a flavor, do straddle the line between bowdlerizing the history of liberal democracy during crisis & exculpating their own complicity/complacency in imperialism & tailism.

                      This was in late March 1933 right before a large World Jewish Conference rally was scheduled to be held in NYC to protest the Reich. Jewish SocDems and conservatives in Germany were both anti-Zionist & largely pro-capitalist

                      “Each of the four Jewish organizations immediately set about fulfilling its obligation as best it could. Brodnitz, Naumann, and Stahl beseeched their friends and associates to flood U.S. and British government offices and Jewish organizations with every form of denial and disclaimer. Doctors, lawyers, professors, bankers, prominent journalists and their newspapers, professional and civic organizations of every category-they all tried by cable, phone, and letter to convince Jewish organizations to call off the Madison Square Garden rally.23

                      "SHOCKED AT GROSS MISINTERPRETATION OF RECENT GERMAN EVENTS STOP SAVE FOR FEW MOLESTATIONS BY INDIVIDUAL TOUGHS NO HARM DONE TO JEWS STOP LATTER CONTINUE UNDISTURBED IN BUSINESS AND OFFICE STOP NO LEADING JEWISH PAPERS SUPPRESSED STOP GERMANY HAS POSITION WELL IN HAND STOP STRICT DISCIPLINE IS MAINTAINED SIGNED AMERIKA INSTlTUT BERLIN."24”

                      Self-hatred is fine and all, but without a clear analysis of class/identifying forces of reaction, it's just naive self-important masochism. Fascism really is an outgrowth of these less principled minimum programme movements in liberal democracies

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              You’re actually surrounded by Maoists, and you’re about to meet some Maoists in real life too.

              Comrade... please start reading On Practice, On Contradiction, and so on.

              Looks like you might have fell for a Eurocentric psyop?

              The revolutionary Communists around the world (you know, the ones you look up to) have been solidly Maoist for the last fifty years. The radical sections in the West have also been Maoists.

              Think about what you’re saying.

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                  NYT 2015

                  "BURLINGTON, Vt. — When Bernie Sanders, a self-declared socialist, served as mayor here in the 1980s, he often complained that the United States had its priorities wrong, that it should be diverting money from the military to domestic needs like housing and health care.

                  So when dozens of antiwar activists blocked the entrance to the local General Electric plant because it was manufacturing Gatling guns to fight the socialists in Central America, the protesters expected the mayor’s full support.

                  Instead, he lined up with union officials and watched as the police made arrests, saying later that in blocking the plant, the activists were keeping workers from their jobs."

                  :clapping hands: more :clapping hands: military-industrial complex :clapping hands: trade unionists :clapping hands: blocking :clapping hands: anti-fascist :clapping hands: action

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                      How can Sanders visit Nicaragua and pretend to hold common cause with struggle there while defending the craft unionists producing the Contra's machine guns?

                      Oh right, because he's an imperialist New Left loon