1."Federal agencies have the authority to intervene in protests, picket signs, or blockades. The law is impartial: it must be enforced without exception."

2."Federal forces are not required to have judicial oversight for their actions."

3."Forces are not obligated to consider alternative entrances or pathways. If the main path is blocked, their duty is to clear it."

4."This action continues until the flow of traffic is fully restored."

5."To carry out these acts, forces will use the minimum necessary force, which is sufficient and proportional to the situation they are addressing."

6."Instigators and organizers of the protest will be identified."

7."Vehicles used in the protest will be identified and subjected to citations or penalties."

8."Data of the instigators, accomplices, participants, and organizers will be transmitted to the authorities through appropriate channels."

9."Notices will be sent to the judge in cases of damage, such as burning flags."

10."In cases involving minors, relevant authorities will be notified, and the guardians of these youths who bring them to these demonstrations will face sanctions and punishment."

11."The costs incurred by security operations will be borne by the responsible organizations or individuals. In cases involving foreigners with provisional residency, information will be forwarded to the National Directorate of Immigration."

12."A registry will be created for organizations that participate in these types of actions."

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    My ML, eh, experience was more about Trotskyism and a bit of ansyn, coupled with reading Wiener's "Cybernetics" and some optimism about future.

    I've read parts and excerpts of these, but none in one piece at one time, so - why not.

    Not American, but thx.

    In Poland most of them are useless trots unfortunately so I’m very dissapointed on that, I’ve got more hope in unions independent from Solidarność getting traction since building up class consciousness would be the priority in this country.

    I mean, they are OK, just too busy fighting each other and imagining solutions simpler than practical.

    Pluralism in unions (I'd also say party organizations) - many times yes.

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      I'm returning just after reading some of your other comments under this post and I have to say I'm greatly disappointed. Much of your attitude was of statements and assertions, many of which are ahistorical and/or incorrect (or at the very least considered so by us). Also your attitude was very combative rather than discussionary. That is to say, that the bears weren't too good either, many of the combative as well but that also stems somewhat from your stubbornness (← what a weird word, three letter duos? wtf). Questions as well as calls for sources or books or claims for why you are getting insulted rather then replying with a "no u" type statement would have been so, so much better. Some modesty could've also helped...

      Still, I have hope for you and a link that may interest you. It's about past socialist countries as well as the USSR and I do hope you read it as it's very good resource with plenty of citations:

      https://www.quora.com/Why-did-Mikhail-Gorbachev-seek-to-reform-the-Soviet-society/answer/Chuck-Garen

      Please do better, because while fixing ignorance requires the help of others, to get that help you have to have a better attitude for them to consider a friendly conversation. Something that is much easier to address and remedy. You're lucky I'm in this comment section and that I'm a rather lenient and considerate person. I see potential in you, and I'm sad this potential was not realized by this comment section. Neither by you, nor by others.

      Now to address the Hexbaristas; I'm really fucking dissappointed. You guys need some fucking

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      in your life, and I know I know, this is the fucking internet and shits not to be taken overly seriously, but I like to make these fucking posts for practice damn it! You should do that too from time to time as being good at educating others is a skill and you NEED (ZERO FUCKING EXCUSES) to hone it. You can use this site for more than just dunking.

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      — “As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say we are tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We know that when the people understand, they cannot help but follow us.”

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          Lmao nah, this is an online shitposting website.

          I'm well aware of that fact and that is why I love this place. It's great at keeping my morale up and reading dunks on pretentious idiots is always a fun activity but I guess dunking myself was never something I was particularly good at. You and UlyssesT are shining examples of what good dunks are, containing useful information I can learn from. The crowd as you were mentioning.

          You do not owe anyone a discussion or respect, most certainly not someone who clearly signals they’re not interested in giving one themselves.

          That is correct, I have nothing else to add except one thing; I like to take initative and give a respectful discussion a singular try at maximum to see how it goes, if others in the comment section haven't tried that themselves. If I feel like I can exploit it, I will and will use it to possibly practice educating. Even if this place possibly isn't the best one to do so it's one that I can easily do so in. Otherwise :PIGPOOPBALLS:

          Trying even for the sake of probing isn't be a bad idea and probably isn't too much to ask for I guess.

          This website can be used in better ways as I've said, but what this website is for you is up to you. I'd just like to see that others engage in either something what I'm doing or at least in dunks of UlyssesT's quality. Rather than just posting :smuglord: and nothing else. An insult should be a spice not the main course, add even the tiniest bit of information to it and it's already miles better. A singular :smuglord: only works when nothing can be added.

          As examples: Bad dunk and Good dunk

          A forum also functions much differently than a dialogue, since there is an argument. You are not trying to convince an individual, but a crowd. Mockery and derision are good tools for this.

          Yeah, It seems I forget this too often... Still newcomers could get attracted with a bit friendliness visible in the wild? I guess?

          If whatever I do is a terrible way to practice I'll have to concede, but I've yet to see to that.

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        • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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          It's liberal bullshit to immediately pivot conversation about what is best to do to a question of who "owes" what (or, more to the point, claiming you owe someone nothing, sidestepping the question of what you should do)

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.zip
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        When "no u" weighs the same as the original comment, it's exactly what should be answered.

        About that link:

        I've read more about USSR than I'd want to remember, and Gorbachev alone as a personality is just a part of the whole tendency. A face of a class, if you will.

        The part about comparisons and currencies is simply illiterate - a fixed legally defined exchange rate doesn't mean that we can multiply USD of the time by that and get a correct representation, obviously.

        It doesn't matter how much USSR produced of which on paper. It matters (probabilistically) which percentage of it was lost due to bad logistics, which percentage of it would be broken fresh from the factory, and how much would be given for it in a real market.

        FFS, I'm not that much against the USSR, I like how some things (like technical education) were done there and I know that it wasn't some horde or an evil empire or even a dictatorship. But people here take such an amazingly arrogant, ignorant and sectarian approach to argument, that I find myself arguing against it by instinct.

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I've read more about USSR than I'd want to remember

          Your posts on here just make me wonder what you've actually read. Quantity doesn't make up for quality. I could read lots of texts about Nazi Germany from David Irving too.

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          I'll report your comments for you and ask the mods to ban/remove them as they see necessary

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              Reason: Snitching on me to the thought police___

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