Direct FB link. TLDR: A lesson in real time that power, not money, is at the heart of the capitalist system. It's easy to be a "good" boss, giving your workers good pay and benefits. Much harder to share power.

I'm trying to produce a more formal statement about it but bottom line is: I screwed up badly and did not live up to my values. I feel bad because I think I've generally done a good job for five years of making Current Affairs a pretty ethical organization and in a single day I bungled it and disappointed a lot of people. I've got a lot of work to do to rebuild trust, but I'm not sure if CA will survive, as subscribers rightly feel betrayed and we're getting cancelations. I don't blame people who cancel, all I can say is that I tried hard for five years to do right by people who worked for us and I'm really sad that I undid it in a single week.

Even though I screwed up, the truth is more complex than the 'fired the staff for wanting democracy' narrative. I've done many egalitarian things with Current Affairs. I don't earn any more than anyone else (we all get $45k a year). I gave up ownership over it, and don't make any kind of profit from it. Anyone can tell you I don't order people about. Everyone works when they like. I've hardly ever exerted authority over it internally at all. Partly as a result, the organization developed a kind of messy structurelessness where it wasn't clear who had power to do what and there was not much accountability for getting work done. The organization had become very inefficient, I wasn't exercising any oversight, and we were adrift. I did feel that it badly needed reorganizing. Our subscription numbers had not been doing well lately and I felt I needed to exert some control over the org to get it back on track, asking some people to leave and moving others to different positions. Unfortunately, I went about this in a horrible way that made people feel very disrespected, asking for a bunch of resignations at once and making people feel like I did not appreciate their work for the organization.

The charge made in the statement by staff is that I didn't want CA to be a worker cooperative. I think this is complicated, or at least that my motivations are somewhat explicable. A worker cooperative had been floated as one of the possible solutions to the structurelessness problem. I am not sure my position on this was defensible, it might have been deeply hypocritical and wrong and selfish, but I will at least explain how I felt. **Since starting CA, I have resisted making Current Affairs 'owned' by staff not because I want to own it myself but because I don't want it to be owned at all, I want it to operate as a not for profit institution that does not belong to particular people. ** ow, I don't want to be a workplace dictator, and I think nobody can say that before this I acted like one in my day-to-day work, but I do feel a strong sense of possession over the editorial vision and voice of the magazine, having co-founded it and worked at it the longest. I had been frustrated at what I saw as encroachments on my domain (editorial) by recently-hired business and admin staff. I had also been frustrated that people were in jobs that clearly weren't working. Plans that were discussed for making the organization more horizontal in its decision-making seemed like they would (1) make it impossible to fix the structurelessness problem and exacerbate the problem of lack of oversight/accountability/reporting structure (2) make it less and less possible for me to actually make the magazine what I think it can be. I felt that without making sure we had the right people in jobs, this was going to result in further disorganized chaos and slowly "bureaucratize" CA into oblivion. But I do not think I tried to fix that problem in the right way at all.

I have never ever tried to own CA or make a profit from it. This was not about money, or keeping people from getting their rightful share of the proceeds. I am not a capitalist, I do not expropriate surplus value. I have never taken more money for myself than anyone else on the full-time staff got, and want to do everything possible to ensure fair working conditions. What I did want was the ability to remain the executive director of the organization and be able to have staff report to me so as to make sure stuff was getting done. That may have been wrong. But that is how I felt.

I am open to believing that this cannot be justified. I can say where the feeling came from which is: for years I made the magazine basically alone in my living room, and I have felt like it is my baby and I know how to run it. It was hard to feel like I was slowly having my ability to run it my way taken away. I think that it's easy to talk about a belief in power sharing but when it comes down to actually sharing power over this thing I have poured my heart and soul into, it felt very very difficult to do. I found it easy to impose good working conditions and equal pay. Giving up control over running CA was a far harder thing for me to accept. This is a personal weakness that ran up against my principle.

I am sorry to all of you and to the staff of CA who did so much to make it what it is today. It's my sincere hope that CA makes it through this because I think we have much more great work to do in the future. I will try my very best to make sure this is done in accordance with sound leftist values. This was not that.

  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    So this is a dispute about management control, not money or ownership. Calling him a capitalist makes little sense when he's taking home $45k and doesn't own the thing (and there's a big difference between being able to fire people and owning a business -- a manager at McDonald's can fire people but doesn't own shit).

    He obviously fucked up the execution -- everything he said should have been on the table with the rest of the staff for months before anything came to a head -- but he has a point. You can't have a rudderless organization, especially in an industry that has firm deadlines and in a time when it's never been easier to do nothing for long stretches. You either need to pick someone to have some management power, or have some well-established collective decision making process. And yeah, he was the one who had the management power up to this point, and as such is the one most responsible for letting the organization become rudderless. But it can be extremely difficult to get your friends to do real work if they aren't already holding up their end.

    I mean, what would you do if you put a lot of time and effort into a project, and you're working with some friends who haven't invested as much time and effort, and that's keeping the project from moving forward? Is the situation likely to improve if they have more control? There's a lot you can try that'd be far better than this, but there's no easy solution.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        He's definitely not a good leader -- this situation would have looked a lot different otherwise. But it doesn't sound like he's fearful of losing power because he wants to be king of a magazine that pays everyone equally poorly. It sounds like he doesn't think the other people on staff are up to running it, which is pretty reasonable if they already aren't holding up their end.

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            My assumption is that he sees CA as a pet passion project and doesn’t want to relinquish control of his baby, which democratising would threaten if he’s a poor a leader as he seems to be.

            Honestly that's pretty much exactly what he's saying. And I get it too. Unfortunately, when your passion project becomes other people's livelihoods it's gets troublesome.

            • FidelCastro [he/him]
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              And NJR also actively encouraged them to do this to begin with. The guy created a total mess.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            That is his framing, but if we're going to read his story critically (as we should) then we have to read the other side critically as well. I see a lot of people taking the other side as the gospel truth but finding all sorts of places to be skeptical of this. That's not a good way of sorting through disputes.

            I don't think it's about clout -- what clout is there to be had at CA in the first place? It looks closer to him being (or at least seeing himself as) more committed than anyone else and not trusting people he sees as less committed with a project he's put so much effort into.

              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I don't know. It's a small, divided community, and I'd say more people know of Briahna Joy Gray (a former CA contributor or editor) than him. Hell, most people here only "know" him because they like to rip on his clothes and voice (totally how we should treat other leftists, but that's a different discussion).

                • heavy4thevintage [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  and I’d say more people know of Briahna Joy Gray (a former CA contributor or editor) than him.

                  ...because she was Bernie's Campaign Press Secretary, not because of CA

                  • Haste_Hall [he/him]
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                    That's the point. CA itself is not a big deal and BJG has more "clout" than NJR by doing non-CA stuff.

                    • heavy4thevintage [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      NJR had built up a decent amount of respect because of CA, much more so than other writers for the publication because he was the face of it. The example of BJG doesn't change that. Bernie's campaign isn't just some random stuff outside of CA , his 2 campaigns have been the impetus for a rebuilt left in America. So yeah, you get more clout in a notable role on his campaign than just about anywhere else. That doesn't disprove that NJR got a good amount of clout from building and running CA.

            • heavy4thevintage [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              That is his framing, but if we’re going to read his story critically (as we should) then we have to read the other side critically as well. I see a lot of people taking the other side as the gospel truth but finding all sorts of places to be skeptical of this. That’s not a good way of sorting through disputes.

              In a labor dispute there are 2 sides: the boss and the workers. I'm going to believe the workers every time, especially when they explicitly say the boss is lying, but you do you.

              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                That's true in a capitalist enterprise, but this isn't a capitalist enterprise. The boss is doing as much actual work as anyone (and likely more) and getting paid the same low salary. No one is extracting surplus value from anyone else's labor.

                That's what makes this so interesting: it's a case study of a workplace disagreement in a non-capitalist organization. You can't default to the easy answers in a typical workplace dispute because it's far from a typical workplace.

                • heavy4thevintage [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  As long as he retained hiring and firing power, along with the editorial control that he had, then it was a capitalist enterprise. The equality of pay may lessen the surplus value extracted by the boss, but by maintaining those power dynamics his workers are still alienated from the product of their labor. They wanted a co-op model to have a much more democratic say over those processes, and when his control over that was materially threatened for the 1st time, beyond just saying it would be great to have workplace democracy!!, he lashed out and fired everyone.

                  This is a boss vs worker dispute. The equal pay doesn't change the power dynamics.

                  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    Actual co-ops have individuals with hiring and firing power, so that alone doesn't make a business a capitalist enterprise. The touchstone is whether someone is extracting surplus value from others' labor, and there's no evidence of that. He doesn't even own the business, and it's structured such that no owner can skim off whatever profits are generated (it's a not for profit).

                    Could it be more democratic? Absolutely. But there are degrees to this stuff, it's not just purely capitalist or socialist.

                    • heavy4thevintage [none/use name]
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                      3 years ago

                      Actual co-ops have individuals with hiring and firing power

                      Who are democratically decided, sure. Even if it's true that there was no surplus value extracted it doesn't matter because the workers are still alienated from the product of their labor. When they attempted to have more democratic control over the process of making the magazine, they got fired. Sounds like a capitalist boss worried about losing control, to me.

                      He doesn’t even own the business, and it’s structured such that no owner can skim off whatever profits are generated (it’s a not for profit).

                      As someone who's worked in the non-profit sector, trust me when I say that this means basically nothing. These set-ups can often become even more exploitative because they're generally set up to do work that people consider "good," like organizing workers or fighting climate change. But regardless, the pay isn't the issue here. It's about power dynamics and how the boss reacted when the workers attempted to organize to change those power dynamics.

                      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        I agree it's not a co-op with democratic management, but that doesn't make it capitalist, necessarily. There are types of unfairness or inequality that don't amount to capitalism. To your point about how non-profits can be exploitative by taking advantage of people's enthusiasm to do "good" work, that's true, but I think "exploitative" only fits if you have a person doing the exploitation. If no one is reaping any benefit above $45k/year, it sounds like a group collectively deciding to prioritize the project over pay. It might not be the best decision for everyone, but it's not as if one person is depressing everyone else's wages to that one person's benefit. There are bad situations that don't amount to exploitation.

                        There are also some interesting questions here about how (or if) the amount of democratic input one gets should vary with their work contribution, and what should be done if workers don't appear to be willing or able to effectively mamage the workplace collectively. Say you're a bricklayer. You work ~200 days per year, and nine other bricklayers at the company each work 1 day per year. Does everyone get one vote? If the nine people with small contributions don't appear to be willing or able to manage the company, should they still get to? Whatever contribution discrepancy existed wasn't anywhere near this stark, but the example highlights some of the legitimate questions that could arise in a more realistic situation.

    • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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      I mean, what would you do if you put a lot of time and effort into a project, and you’re working with some friends who haven’t invested as much time and effort, and that’s keeping the project from moving forward?

      I’ve been in this situation many times. You sit down and have a frank conversation about your vision for he future and if/how they want to recommit or lower their contribution. It’s hard when money’s involved, but these are the sort of conversations it’s your responsibility to have and handle professionally as someone in a leadership role

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        I agree that this is the right approach, and that he's at fault for being in charge and not doing it. But it's also really hard to do, and as you point out, it only gets harder when money's involved.

        It looks to me like he had good intentions and a reasonable position, but failed spectacularly at a very difficult management task. Obviously he deserves blame, but people are going way overboard.

        • ImSoOCD [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah it’s the internet. Most of us don’t know these people and can’t help them one way or the other. And most of us aren’t discussing the theoretical implications so much as talking shit, which is fun. Some funny lines getting thrown around. But regardless, I hope people who are organizing can take some notes and try to be proactive about preventing these types of breakdowns in their orgs. This was an unforced error and a reactionary one at that.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      and there’s a big difference between being able to fire people and owning a business

      This is true, but I note the cut off for many union memberships (especially the IWW) is firing authority.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        He's management for sure. But there's a difference between a traditional management dispute and a dispute with a manager who does the same work as you (and possibly more of that work), who doesn't represent the interests of any capitalist owner, and who has some credibility if only through the fact that he's taking exactly the same low salary as you. This isn't squeezing anyone to generate higher profits, it seems like a legitimate disagreement about what's best for the future of a not for profit.

        • Mardoniush [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Yes, there's some difference. But extraction of surplus value maps on to extraction of surplus labour. And this brings in concerns about agency. NJR seems to still have a great deal of control where labour gets directed in the organisation, and from a socialist perspective, that's where I feel his acts become Bourgois in nature. The workers have demanded more democratic control of the distribution of their labour, and he has refused.

          This is more the Bourgois ideology of the guild-master rather than the modern capitalist, but it still is one.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            On control, which seems to be the heart of the issue, I think the other staff wants democratic control (reasonable) and NJR has doubts about their ability to handle that (reasonable if they actually aren't quite getting things done). If more stuff stops getting done and the business fails, that benefits no one.

            The default should be trusting workers with the responsibility, but there are definitely workplaces where that would fall apart pretty fast. I think it comes down to how legitimate the concern about not getting things done is, and I don't think that's something we have enough information to adequately assess.

            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              3 years ago

              Yeah, I don't find his issues to be unreasonable, and potentially (since there's every chance he'd still have had even stronger editorial control if he'd worked things out) giving up control of something you started from scratch is really hard and bittersweet.

              But his reaction, instead of collaboratively solving these issues (maybe a worker co-op wasn't the solution, maybe a worker co-op with a strict management hierarchy with only periodic recall was. Maybe some of his fellow senior members had the same issues he did) was to take what he saw as his ball and go home. He says that some roles weren't working out.

              I've had those discussions in companies, I've stepped down from roles or transitioned to new ones after conversations with both management and the team about if a role was achieving a certain goal. It was a workspace, those things happen, it's not personal and if you take care of the team member and respect them it generally works out pretty well.

              If a shitty shareholder run top-down corp can have cordial discussions about internal structural issues, a more horizontal company can and needs to be able to have them.

              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                He definitely handled the situation in perhaps the worst possible way. Among other things, it shows that management ability is a real asset, an idea that's not popular in leftist spaces because so many managers are overpaid and are terrible at their jobs anyway. Sucks that a pretty good leftist magazine is very publicly in crisis, but at least there are some lessons to he learned.

    • chadhominem [comrade/them]
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      100%. Not "taking sides" per se but I think it's important to note that NJR also produced like 500 articles last year - literally something like 70% of their content/production. My man fumbled the whole approach to this situation but if all things pay/ownership are equal as he says, I'd also tell the like Director of Subscriptions and web designer if they wanted some equal yet ultimately futile editorial control to fuck off