literally what is a 'distro' i'm not from the future
all i see online is 'lmao i compiled ARCHMAGEULTRADEEPCORELINUX and it only took me 3 days i'm so cool now'
all my linux nerd friends are constantly having to fuck with shit to get it to work and having wayy more crashing than me
IME it's stable for me (and the majority of web servers run it, so it can be extremely stable)- I've gone years between installing without crashing/major fuckups/weird shit happening.
Sorry if you feel attacked/bothered by the Linux stuff - I think the devs are working on adding filters so you could just block Linux posts altogether.
Fair point, but I really wouldn't say that Linux is as a rule unstable - some versions are and you can always fuck something up, but the same can be said for self-installing Windows as well.
The problem is more with the lack of good GUIs for configuring Linux. I can't even disable mouse acceleration in Linux while I can in Windows. Windows also has GUIs for things like managing device drivers and so on. Everything on Linux is still configured through a massive web of config files (which are hard for GUI programs to modify). Windows has the registry which allows programmatic control over settings (of course the Windows registry being public is also a mistake and is garbage). You can configure almost any aspect of Windows via a GUI that you don't need to be an expert to use. You can install programs from anywhere on the internet easily. It helps that Windows has a lot of actual money behind its development for desktop use (or at least did at some point). And most Linux desktop environments are also really low quality compared to Windows. I could go on and on about weird little things that make using Linux feel really weird.
Man, you do you, I don't like to proselytize and I get that Linux just doesn't feel right to a lot of people. But some of the things you're claiming here are straight up wrong or misleading. By order of appearance:
I can’t even disable mouse acceleration in Linux
Depending on your desktop environment the name of the menu might change, but at least in Xfce (I'm running XUbuntu 18.04 VM) you can find this under Settings - Mouse and Touchpad in the Start Menu (called Whisker). It's literally 3 clicks away.
Everything on Linux is still configured through a massive web of config files (which are hard for GUI programs to modify) ...
Everything in the Linux filesystem is a file, including disk drives, console terminals, screens, and yes system configuration. However, direct text editing is not the preferred method to manage the system , unless you want the kind of low level control that no regular user would need. And the idea that GUI managers have a hard time editing cleartext is just laughable. System services and configuration (systemd) can be managed graphically with SystemGenie in KDE, and cockpit through the browser (highly recommended package) in any other desktop environment. Graphical package managers are nothing new, and I can really recommend Synaptic and Muon, both of which allow you to install, remove, reconfigure packages AND drivers. Desktop themes are also managed graphically in pretty much any modern distro. Ditto for Language and localization, Timezone, network settings.
You can configure almost any aspect of Windows via a GUI that you don’t need to be an expert to use.
I'm guessing you've never had to explain to a boomer how to switch off a windows service over the phone. Or to revert to a previous driver version. Mind you, I'm not saying Linux is better, just pointing out that in any OS doing anything beyond browsing, entertainment, and text editing requires familiarity and a level of expertise with the system. I get not wanting to spend your precious free time and energy learning a new one, but that does not tell you much about how accessible said system actually is.
And most Linux desktop environments are also really low quality compared to Windows.
Taste is personal, whatever rocks your socks, but I'd be curious to know what environments you're comparing here. I'm assuming you're thinking of Windows 10 or 7, which do feel fairly polished, but like the new MATE desktop is entirely comparable and definitely more customizable.
Yeah the need to edit text files is a chore, but for me it's not to big of a thing - I rarely do it - though you're right that some desktops kinda suck, but I do like the variety.
"I see a caricature of someone going out of their way to be annoying to someone who is minding their own business. I feel attacked, because that is exactly like me!" Not exactly painting a good picture of yourself.
how did i ever imply that it was 'exactly like me', or even partially like me.
its obvious the point of the caricature is to portray non linux users in general this way, regardless off the inaccuracy of the caricature. thats the point of caricatures, its the point of the wojak memes.
i don't feel attacked because its accurate, but because its not.
The only point of similarity is that i don't use linux.
the main point of my post was that i have literally never had a windows user tell me to switch operating systems, i have never had a mac user proselytize at me about their software, its always linux users trying to spread the 'good word'. the OP is completely hypocritical or at least the opposite of my experiences.
idk what to tell you dude, the caricature is people who go out of their way to shit on other people who are minding their own business, its absolutely not portraying "all windows users" this way, you're just looking for a reason to feel justified in lashing out at people
:stuff: because i do not use linux, and i do not hate vegans. this meme is implicitly saying something to the effect of 'all non-linux users are pathetic vegan hating bigots who are distracting me from my nice times using linux', which in my case, as a non-linux user who is not a pathetic vegan hating bigot, is not true, in fact it is akin to slander. additionally, in my experience in online communities, and in real life, i have never experienced a windows or mac or other OS user proselytize so intensely as a linux user, so the meme seems to have an entirely counterfactual point - the behavior it attributes to Windows users are in fact more frequent among Linux users. :stuff:
as a non-linux user who is not a pathetic vegan hating bigot, is not true, in fact it is akin to slander
Okay. Yeah, you might want to go outside or do something else for a while if a meme like this feels like personal slander. It sounds like you’re pretty stressed out.
Lol what are you talking about, most Linux distros install in like 10 minutes and like 90% of stuff works out of the box.
literally what is a 'distro' i'm not from the future all i see online is 'lmao i compiled ARCHMAGEULTRADEEPCORELINUX and it only took me 3 days i'm so cool now' all my linux nerd friends are constantly having to fuck with shit to get it to work and having wayy more crashing than me
Activate Windows chads stay winning
Oh it's the term for a given variant of Linux.
IME it's stable for me (and the majority of web servers run it, so it can be extremely stable)- I've gone years between installing without crashing/major fuckups/weird shit happening.
Sorry if you feel attacked/bothered by the Linux stuff - I think the devs are working on adding filters so you could just block Linux posts altogether.
The problem is that web servers are not desktop computers.
Fair point, but I really wouldn't say that Linux is as a rule unstable - some versions are and you can always fuck something up, but the same can be said for self-installing Windows as well.
The problem is more with the lack of good GUIs for configuring Linux. I can't even disable mouse acceleration in Linux while I can in Windows. Windows also has GUIs for things like managing device drivers and so on. Everything on Linux is still configured through a massive web of config files (which are hard for GUI programs to modify). Windows has the registry which allows programmatic control over settings (of course the Windows registry being public is also a mistake and is garbage). You can configure almost any aspect of Windows via a GUI that you don't need to be an expert to use. You can install programs from anywhere on the internet easily. It helps that Windows has a lot of actual money behind its development for desktop use (or at least did at some point). And most Linux desktop environments are also really low quality compared to Windows. I could go on and on about weird little things that make using Linux feel really weird.
Man, you do you, I don't like to proselytize and I get that Linux just doesn't feel right to a lot of people. But some of the things you're claiming here are straight up wrong or misleading. By order of appearance:
Depending on your desktop environment the name of the menu might change, but at least in Xfce (I'm running XUbuntu 18.04 VM) you can find this under Settings - Mouse and Touchpad in the Start Menu (called Whisker). It's literally 3 clicks away.
Everything in the Linux filesystem is a file, including disk drives, console terminals, screens, and yes system configuration. However, direct text editing is not the preferred method to manage the system , unless you want the kind of low level control that no regular user would need. And the idea that GUI managers have a hard time editing cleartext is just laughable. System services and configuration (
systemd) can be managed graphically with SystemGenie in KDE, andcockpitthrough the browser (highly recommended package) in any other desktop environment. Graphical package managers are nothing new, and I can really recommend Synaptic and Muon, both of which allow you to install, remove, reconfigure packages AND drivers. Desktop themes are also managed graphically in pretty much any modern distro. Ditto for Language and localization, Timezone, network settings.I'm guessing you've never had to explain to a boomer how to switch off a windows service over the phone. Or to revert to a previous driver version. Mind you, I'm not saying Linux is better, just pointing out that in any OS doing anything beyond browsing, entertainment, and text editing requires familiarity and a level of expertise with the system. I get not wanting to spend your precious free time and energy learning a new one, but that does not tell you much about how accessible said system actually is.
Taste is personal, whatever rocks your socks, but I'd be curious to know what environments you're comparing here. I'm assuming you're thinking of Windows 10 or 7, which do feel fairly polished, but like the new MATE desktop is entirely comparable and definitely more customizable.
Yeah the need to edit text files is a chore, but for me it's not to big of a thing - I rarely do it - though you're right that some desktops kinda suck, but I do like the variety.
i guess the only thing i feel attacked by is the random implication that users of other operating systems are simply vegan hating bigots?
"I see a caricature of someone going out of their way to be annoying to someone who is minding their own business. I feel attacked, because that is exactly like me!" Not exactly painting a good picture of yourself.
:jesse-wtf:
how did i ever imply that it was 'exactly like me', or even partially like me.
its obvious the point of the caricature is to portray non linux users in general this way, regardless off the inaccuracy of the caricature. thats the point of caricatures, its the point of the wojak memes. i don't feel attacked because its accurate, but because its not. The only point of similarity is that i don't use linux. the main point of my post was that i have literally never had a windows user tell me to switch operating systems, i have never had a mac user proselytize at me about their software, its always linux users trying to spread the 'good word'. the OP is completely hypocritical or at least the opposite of my experiences.
you are really grasping for an own here.
That's like a white person getting mad that the caricature is portraying all white people this way because the wojak has white skin
lmao because the skin color was the topic of the meme obviously
idk what to tell you dude, the caricature is people who go out of their way to shit on other people who are minding their own business, its absolutely not portraying "all windows users" this way, you're just looking for a reason to feel justified in lashing out at people
LMFAO yeah the meme is just about the going out of the way, directed in no way at windows users and in no way associated with them.
Why do you feel attacked by that? I’m confused.
:stuff: because i do not use linux, and i do not hate vegans. this meme is implicitly saying something to the effect of 'all non-linux users are pathetic vegan hating bigots who are distracting me from my nice times using linux', which in my case, as a non-linux user who is not a pathetic vegan hating bigot, is not true, in fact it is akin to slander. additionally, in my experience in online communities, and in real life, i have never experienced a windows or mac or other OS user proselytize so intensely as a linux user, so the meme seems to have an entirely counterfactual point - the behavior it attributes to Windows users are in fact more frequent among Linux users. :stuff:
Okay. Yeah, you might want to go outside or do something else for a while if a meme like this feels like personal slander. It sounds like you’re pretty stressed out.
i was being intentionally overly explicative lol lmao
Nah I think they're just referring to MacOS users with that. Apple uses baby tortoise leather to insulate their wires and stuff.