why it's funny lol most Windows users don't know about Linux or what an OS even is
Well a major objective of computer science was to make computers usable to those who know nothing about them
me, having fun casually gaming and seamlessly navigating a UI developed by professionals for ease of use, after installing windows 10 for free with no problems whatsoever: normal_wojak_at_PC.jpg
you: angery_pathetic_crying_wojak.jpg "WINDOWS IS TRASH! MUH SPYWARE! PENGUIN MASCOT!! I'M TOTALLY GONNA DO A REVOLUTION AFTER I GET THIS GREAT OS TO WORK, THE NSA DEFINITELY CAN"T TRACK ME, A HARMLESS PATHETIC COMPUTER NERD, THEN!!! YOU JUST HATE VEGANS!!!!!!!! STOP HAVING FUN AND SPEND LITERALY DAYS INSTALLING THIS ARCANE OS!!!!!!!!!"
Crying wojak next to something I don't like so I look cool, etc
Lol what are you talking about, most Linux distros install in like 10 minutes and like 90% of stuff works out of the box.
literally what is a 'distro' i'm not from the future all i see online is 'lmao i compiled ARCHMAGEULTRADEEPCORELINUX and it only took me 3 days i'm so cool now' all my linux nerd friends are constantly having to fuck with shit to get it to work and having wayy more crashing than me
Activate Windows chads stay winning
literally what is a ‘distro’
Oh it's the term for a given variant of Linux.
IME it's stable for me (and the majority of web servers run it, so it can be extremely stable)- I've gone years between installing without crashing/major fuckups/weird shit happening.
Sorry if you feel attacked/bothered by the Linux stuff - I think the devs are working on adding filters so you could just block Linux posts altogether.
Fair point, but I really wouldn't say that Linux is as a rule unstable - some versions are and you can always fuck something up, but the same can be said for self-installing Windows as well.
The problem is more with the lack of good GUIs for configuring Linux. I can't even disable mouse acceleration in Linux while I can in Windows. Windows also has GUIs for things like managing device drivers and so on. Everything on Linux is still configured through a massive web of config files (which are hard for GUI programs to modify). Windows has the registry which allows programmatic control over settings (of course the Windows registry being public is also a mistake and is garbage). You can configure almost any aspect of Windows via a GUI that you don't need to be an expert to use. You can install programs from anywhere on the internet easily. It helps that Windows has a lot of actual money behind its development for desktop use (or at least did at some point). And most Linux desktop environments are also really low quality compared to Windows. I could go on and on about weird little things that make using Linux feel really weird.
Man, you do you, I don't like to proselytize and I get that Linux just doesn't feel right to a lot of people. But some of the things you're claiming here are straight up wrong or misleading. By order of appearance:
I can’t even disable mouse acceleration in Linux
Depending on your desktop environment the name of the menu might change, but at least in Xfce (I'm running XUbuntu 18.04 VM) you can find this under Settings - Mouse and Touchpad in the Start Menu (called Whisker). It's literally 3 clicks away.
Everything on Linux is still configured through a massive web of config files (which are hard for GUI programs to modify) ...
Everything in the Linux filesystem is a file, including disk drives, console terminals, screens, and yes system configuration. However, direct text editing is not the preferred method to manage the system , unless you want the kind of low level control that no regular user would need. And the idea that GUI managers have a hard time editing cleartext is just laughable. System services and configuration (
systemd) can be managed graphically with SystemGenie in KDE, andcockpitthrough the browser (highly recommended package) in any other desktop environment. Graphical package managers are nothing new, and I can really recommend Synaptic and Muon, both of which allow you to install, remove, reconfigure packages AND drivers. Desktop themes are also managed graphically in pretty much any modern distro. Ditto for Language and localization, Timezone, network settings.You can configure almost any aspect of Windows via a GUI that you don’t need to be an expert to use.
I'm guessing you've never had to explain to a boomer how to switch off a windows service over the phone. Or to revert to a previous driver version. Mind you, I'm not saying Linux is better, just pointing out that in any OS doing anything beyond browsing, entertainment, and text editing requires familiarity and a level of expertise with the system. I get not wanting to spend your precious free time and energy learning a new one, but that does not tell you much about how accessible said system actually is.
And most Linux desktop environments are also really low quality compared to Windows.
Taste is personal, whatever rocks your socks, but I'd be curious to know what environments you're comparing here. I'm assuming you're thinking of Windows 10 or 7, which do feel fairly polished, but like the new MATE desktop is entirely comparable and definitely more customizable.
Yeah the need to edit text files is a chore, but for me it's not to big of a thing - I rarely do it - though you're right that some desktops kinda suck, but I do like the variety.
i guess the only thing i feel attacked by is the random implication that users of other operating systems are simply vegan hating bigots?
"I see a caricature of someone going out of their way to be annoying to someone who is minding their own business. I feel attacked, because that is exactly like me!" Not exactly painting a good picture of yourself.
:jesse-wtf:
how did i ever imply that it was 'exactly like me', or even partially like me.
its obvious the point of the caricature is to portray non linux users in general this way, regardless off the inaccuracy of the caricature. thats the point of caricatures, its the point of the wojak memes. i don't feel attacked because its accurate, but because its not. The only point of similarity is that i don't use linux. the main point of my post was that i have literally never had a windows user tell me to switch operating systems, i have never had a mac user proselytize at me about their software, its always linux users trying to spread the 'good word'. the OP is completely hypocritical or at least the opposite of my experiences.
you are really grasping for an own here.
That's like a white person getting mad that the caricature is portraying all white people this way because the wojak has white skin
idk what to tell you dude, the caricature is people who go out of their way to shit on other people who are minding their own business, its absolutely not portraying "all windows users" this way, you're just looking for a reason to feel justified in lashing out at people
LMFAO yeah the meme is just about the going out of the way, directed in no way at windows users and in no way associated with them.
:stuff: because i do not use linux, and i do not hate vegans. this meme is implicitly saying something to the effect of 'all non-linux users are pathetic vegan hating bigots who are distracting me from my nice times using linux', which in my case, as a non-linux user who is not a pathetic vegan hating bigot, is not true, in fact it is akin to slander. additionally, in my experience in online communities, and in real life, i have never experienced a windows or mac or other OS user proselytize so intensely as a linux user, so the meme seems to have an entirely counterfactual point - the behavior it attributes to Windows users are in fact more frequent among Linux users. :stuff:
as a non-linux user who is not a pathetic vegan hating bigot, is not true, in fact it is akin to slander
Okay. Yeah, you might want to go outside or do something else for a while if a meme like this feels like personal slander. It sounds like you’re pretty stressed out.
Nah I think they're just referring to MacOS users with that. Apple uses baby tortoise leather to insulate their wires and stuff.
Me, playing all video games in peace
Literally half my computer's processing power is just background applications running other background applications in an incestuous loop.
I really will switch to Linux I fucking swear to god I'll do it, I swear.
Nvidia's proprietary drivers are pretty much the same between Linux and Windows. Nvidia sucks, but Nvidia cards don't suck to use.
Weird, I had never heard of any of this when I was trying to learn more before switching.
The exceptions to this are Arch using an installer
idk, i installed arch (btw :comfy-cool:) the normal way and haven't had any problems. twice actually, on my pc and laptop which both have nvidia gpu's. maybe things have changed since you last looked into it?
Debian ships an iso with proprietary drivers; Ubuntu comes with them I believe. Nouveau usually works well enough to get you a desktop. Not sure about Redhat derivatives.
Well the "configuring my workspace" ends up being the majority of time spent using linux...
Yeah I love how that's in there like it's just another fun activity to do.
Fun for some people I guess but it's perfectly alright to just go with the defaults
If it wasn’t for that sniveling little shit
this wouldn’t even be a discussionwe'd be using Sun Microsystems and Oracle branded bloatware instead.A dozen mega-corps competing to be the One OS That Rules Them All, so they can sell all your data to a joint venture between the NSA and a conglomeration of marketing companies. But in the end, it was always going to suck.
Games would just work, because they would be developed with it in mind.
This is literally just what game consoles are, and they have all the same bloatware problems as Windows.
Not knowing how computers work is the right decision for me :blob-no-thoughts:
Me configuring a Linux based server with near zero experience in the environment
:sadness-abysmal:
You're just like vegans!
Another reason to switch to Linux :im-vegan:
I don't get the linux meme like do what you want lol but I'm gonna keep using windows because I'm lazy not that good with computer and it's not like I can remove spy devices from my life that would require getting my roommate to also drop windows and their iphone as well as getting rid of my android phone and getting rid of my neighbors devices and their stupid alexa bullshit basically my point is that we're gonna always be watched and spied on no matter what until the feds cease to exist and that ain't happeni ng soon so in conclusion idgraf bout linux but also enjoy it because you linux types seem to get a lot out of that and atthe end of the day isn't that what matters??
if you don't try and get fancy it's not that hard. Linux has a graphical user interface and pretty much everything that's easy to do in windows is easy on Linux
It just annoys me when ppl use paranoia as a reason not to care about privacy. Your neighbors devices aren't spying on you and no one said Windows is actually listening to what you say and sending it to Micro$hit!
That's kinda the problem really, people first need to realize what caring about privacy is about and it certainly isn't about rejecting tech and returning to :le-monke: and it isn't about wearing tinfoil hats either :agony-deep:
I’ve been meaning to switch for a while, where do I start? If linux is anything like veganism, then it’s based.
btw :im-vegan:
Gentoo or Linux From Scratch if you want to learn how stuff works and therefore fix any issues that come up later. With Windows when things go real bad you just reinstall. With Linux you really can fix it if you know what's what.
Ubuntu or Pop! OS if you want the best chance at a seamless experience.
I personally recommend doing the learning option first and then the latter, but only if you have the time and patience and interest for the learning.
Pop OS works super easily out of the box by default, it's pretty, and it's easy for gaming.
If you want a desktop that feels like Windows out of the box and is really customizable, try Kubuntu.
You can try (in demo mode) and/or install either of these Linux versions by flashing the download file to a USB through the program Rufus. Use this tutorial for a walkthrough on this entire process and an installation itself. Use this tutorial to divide up your drive so you can boot up either Linux or Windows at your leisure! Good luck my friend
BTW :im-vegan:
Literally the only use case I've had for WSL is to ssh into a server and do some computation on it. What do you use it for?
Basically anything you'd use a terminal for, it makes for a very nice replacement to Command Prompt or PowerShell.
come to think of it, I've never really interacted with my windows directories. Could be useful to run sed or grep on collections of files and shit
If you use Windows Terminal you can set WSL as the default and add it to the right click menu within File Explorer.
I do use windows terminal, but prefer to leave power shell as the default, and then I have CentOS7 and Ubuntu18.04 for testing some shit. I'm currently studying for LPIC-1 and it helps to do simpler things from WSL instead of going to the VM.
My favorite part of Linux is all the people I imagine are mad at me for using it
ive been honestly pretty astonished how well just about every game ive tried has worked on linux
even jankiest-old-game-ever-made vampire the masquerade bloodlines, of all things, even with a giant fan patch installed by windows exe
and they made a linux native port of total warhammer 2 but proton is so good that the windows version now actually works even better lol
