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I agree but you dont even have to frame it with buzzwords like authoritarianism, especially when approaching 99% of people,even leftists. Just the obvious. We need
A. Not a dictatorship of the Bourgeois
B. Central planning
C. Ability to enforce and coordinate measures and decisions regarding changes in infastructure and socioeconomic structures across continent scales quckly and efficiently, even if sometimes they go against what a majority of the population would vote for at any given time or what would arise from communities or towns deciding what to do themselves for themselves
Of course this in practice will look like what chud/liberal americans and even anti-authoritarian leftists refer to today or historicaly as "authoritarianism" (in the latter case cause it wont be based on horizontal direct democratic non coersive structures) . But same would have been said if we talked with these people about the chinese response and measures to the corona before it happened, a response that turns out is as good as anything we can concieve at these scales on our current world and saved millions of lives .
"authoritarianism" is usually just used as a western buzzword for "strong state intervention". Climate change definitely requires some intense state intervention, from multiple states. Private capital interests have prevented any change from happening but you don't necessarily need an actual dictator and shit just to get some climate emergency programs.
Hard to disagree. The pandemic has shown that the majority of people would literally rather die than be mildly inconvenienced, so trusting the general public to make good long-term decisions seems borderline idiotic at this point.
Good, that's what neoliberals want you to think. The only authoritarianism we need is nationalizing energy companies and the auto industry (to get rid of them). FOH with this consent for "climate lockdowns", forced "degrowth" for the working class and fortress borders.
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ok now try quickly coming to the realization
My refractory period is too long :pingu-horny:
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:xicko:
all states are class dictatorships but only one class wants to abolish class entirely: choose your fighter
I choose the ghost of Stalin!
I agree but you dont even have to frame it with buzzwords like authoritarianism, especially when approaching 99% of people,even leftists. Just the obvious. We need
A. Not a dictatorship of the Bourgeois
B. Central planning
C. Ability to enforce and coordinate measures and decisions regarding changes in infastructure and socioeconomic structures across continent scales quckly and efficiently, even if sometimes they go against what a majority of the population would vote for at any given time or what would arise from communities or towns deciding what to do themselves for themselves
Of course this in practice will look like what chud/liberal americans and even anti-authoritarian leftists refer to today or historicaly as "authoritarianism" (in the latter case cause it wont be based on horizontal direct democratic non coersive structures) . But same would have been said if we talked with these people about the chinese response and measures to the corona before it happened, a response that turns out is as good as anything we can concieve at these scales on our current world and saved millions of lives .
"authoritarianism" is usually just used as a western buzzword for "strong state intervention". Climate change definitely requires some intense state intervention, from multiple states. Private capital interests have prevented any change from happening but you don't necessarily need an actual dictator and shit just to get some climate emergency programs.
Hard to disagree. The pandemic has shown that the majority of people would literally rather die than be mildly inconvenienced, so trusting the general public to make good long-term decisions seems borderline idiotic at this point.
Good, that's what neoliberals want you to think. The only authoritarianism we need is nationalizing energy companies and the auto industry (to get rid of them). FOH with this consent for "climate lockdowns", forced "degrowth" for the working class and fortress borders.