Like I get that ivermectin can be harmful and isn’t meant for COVID w/e.
But I also know a lot of houseless people and uninsured that have relied on animal medication when human medication was inaccessible to them due to the cost. Is it safe or advised? No. But it’s nice to not have to choose between medication and eating when you’re sick and poor.
This whole “lol they take horse meds they’re dumb” is a bad way to angle your argument IMO as it can be leveraged to punch down. And we need to be thinking critically about what kind of laws can come from encouraging takes like this. I don’t want to limit anyone’s access to affordable medicine even if some people abuse that access to get diarrhea.
Perhaps we shouldn’t be attacking the problem on some intrinsic “human taking animal meds bad” but more on the reasons people do it? Because all of this links back to the bigger problem that America doesn’t have adequate healthcare for its people. And, I would argue, that leveraging the discussion from that logic would add more weight to our cause and help more people see the inherent evils that are contributing to this. (Namely American healthcare interest groups)
Thoughts?
I’m not doing that at all. Before the pandemic news articles about people taking animal medications were heavily focused on poor people’s lack of access to affordable healthcare. I’m just pointing out how convenient it is that now it’s about rich chuds and being anti-vax. In 2016 the news was about creating sympathy for those that couldn’t afford the right meds but now when the news talks about animal medication it only does so to demonize ivermectin. It ignores the people that still rely on things like pig insulin and dog antibiotics. Why could that be? People that can’t afford insulin and antibiotics didn’t just disappear.
Yeah, no, the vaccine is free, you’re performing olympic level gymnastics right now to suggest making fun of chuds is poor shaming.
like saying ‘guys do you think by making fun of using alcohol to treat anal prolapse will prevent poor people from using it as a diuretic’
You’re creating a straw man out of my argument.
We should focus more on people who take animal medication out of necessity (like for diabetes or bacterial infections) than we do on people who take it out of stupidity. I’m not here to defend some chud’s right to die I’m here to make a case that this could hinder someone’s right to live in the future.
It also says a lot about how effective this narrative is that me bringing it up here makes me instantly read as being pro-chud when I’ve only ever brought up my concern from the angle of the harm it could do to the poor. The thing I’m concerned about is “hey I think dunking on animal meds as a whole makes it hard to have a constructive conversation about why people historically turn to animal meds”
I think your entire argument is built on a strawman.
I think you’re forgetting the part where there’s a global pandemic going on and people are using medications for completely ill founded reasons to cure a deadly disease. You could literally frame anythings Chuds do as a consequence of material conditions. Genocide, bigotry, capitalist exploitation. How salient is the argument here when the biggest story is thousands of people dying from the use of this medication all due to political ideology? Like, maybe, yes, it could be spun that way? I don’t know how important it is to point that out right now and on this site.
I didn’t realize it was that big a problem. Do you have a source on the thousands dying from ivermectin? How many thousands?
Not really, no.
Thousands of people are taking it. Maybe a hundred have died so far
Okay, do you have a source?
I just claimed that annual deaths from ivermectin have not even surpassed the annual deaths from toasters, so no I’m not googling a source for you
Because ivermectin is a current news item of relevance. It's the biggest thing happening in animal drug use by humans in a long time, so of course it's what the media stories are covering right now. It's not prevalent because ivermectin people are getting made fun of - you're reversing the causality.
Search any topic and you're going to get more current news stories than ones from 2016.