• Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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      11 months ago

      The previous government had running infrastructure, hospitals, electricity, clean water, etc. before the American regime bombed them and plunged the region into chaos so as to install puppet governments that allowed the U.S regime to pillage their resources and inflate the stock portfolios of the war criminals that run the American regime.

      Zero justification for supporting the actions of the American terrorist regime.

        • emizeko [they/them]
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          11 months ago

          praising of a genocidal dictator

          um nobody here is praising Joe Biden

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              11 months ago

              Who was Saddam's top allies during the Anfal campaign? Who gave him the gas? Like all neocon propagandists you're completely full of shit and yet you have the fuckin gall to open your filthy mouth and talk about genocidal dictator this and that after what the US did to Iraq, go fuck yourself shitlib

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]M
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              11 months ago

              Right, Bush, Obama, Trump, and Biden's bullets, bombs, and depleted uranium thatve killed and displaced millions of Iraqi citizens are obviously much better.

              Isn't worshipping the lesser of two evils you liberal demons whole political ideology?

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                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  The American autocrats you worship did an order of magnitude more evil than Sadam ever could.

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        • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          You're really conflating seething hatred for America destroying a country with praise for Saddam Hussein? You reactionaries really can't see in anything beyond binary terms, can you?

          Saddam was fucking atrocious, but Iraq had working infrastructure under him (and his rise to power was aided by the US, so he was another pawn)

          They had that torn apart courtesy of America and are only just building back

          • Ideology [she/her]
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            11 months ago

            Sorry, we're all out of empathy here in the west. Try getting better bootstraps, thirdworlders.

          • jack55555@lemmy.ml
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            11 months ago

            No I got no love for what the US and the allies did to Iraq, but what good is the the running water they had for the dead Kurds? From the start, my argument was they are better off now. Not that they are in paradise now.

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              11 months ago

              Better off how? I pointed out their power grid is shit, their water table is contaminated, their buildings are bombed out, and everything but their oil has been privatized. Materially, they're fucked 3 ways to Sunday.

              If you're trying to still make digs about 'supporting Saddam killing Kurds' or w/e, I'll point out again that Saddam had the full backing of the US until Kuwait

              And you can get rid of people like him without invading the country and tearing it asunder

              • Ideology [she/her]
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                11 months ago

                It's almost like european powers pit ethnic groups against eachother to destabilize resource-rich regions.

            • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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              11 months ago

              The Americans did not care about the people Saddam killed, and they killed millions more Iraqis then he ever did, you're a delusional racist and a war worshiping dipshit

              • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                11 months ago

                It's true, the number of times i heard "glass the middle east" as a child comprehensively destroyed for me the idea of america as a force for anything good, and of americans as an aggregate being anything but a swarm of stupid bloodthirsty assholes once they get activated.

                I have hope for the individuals, but as a collective identity? No more American, the world does not need American.

            • Ideology [she/her]
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              11 months ago

              my argument was they are better off now.

              According to who?

              • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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                11 months ago

                Apparently this bozo's feelings

                Motherfucker is acting like all libs, like this is some marvel movie shit to them where after the US got Saddam, all the 'good guys' stood on top of a building in downtown Baghdad at night and said 'We have hope now' and then the credits rolled

                They forgot this is real life

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                • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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                  11 months ago

                  The dead Kurds are better off now? Did you use a medium to survey them?

                • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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                  11 months ago

                  The Kurds killed with chemical weapon technology supplied by the US? The killings that the US tried to frame Iran for? After which the US refused to sanction Iraq and continued to provide dual-use technology to Iraq.

                  Those dead Kurds?

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              • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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                11 months ago

                Jan 6th is America's Libya moment, and China should missile strike the US airforce and establish a no-fly zone over North America to insure the U.S. regime can't kill their insurgents

            • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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              11 months ago

              Then why are you fucking defending their presence there like five minutes ago?

            • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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              11 months ago

              They don't have functional infrastructure 20 years after the war and they did under Saddam. You really think the US was interested in anything besides cannibalizing the country for resources?

              edit: Oh yeah, they were interested in one other thing: handing lucrative ”rebuilding” contracts to corporations like Halliburton with direct ties to the Bush admin.

        • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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          11 months ago

          Hey quick question, what's worse: opposing the US empire, or being the US empire and giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to attack Iran?

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          11 months ago

          What the fuck? There isn’t a single word of praise for any thing or anyone in that comment are you this fucking delusional???

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          11 months ago

          Now the praising of a genocidal

          What your feelings on the state of Israel?

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          "oh shid oh fuck I wandered outside my echo chamber oh shiiiiiiiii"

        • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          I'm with you. It's not fair to make judgments based on the material reality of people's lives. You clearly said the word dictator, which means bad guy from an exotic locale. You won the argument. What are all these commies talking about?

        • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          The Iraq war and the aftermath probably killed more Iraqis than Saddam's entire reign.

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        • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          Bitch, you're the one saying the genocidal slaughter and immiseration of millions of Iraqis is a good thing.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Iraq's power grid took until 2008 to return to the capacity it could generate prior to the first Gulf War over a decade and a half prior where the US needlessly destroyed their power grid, and it still can't meet demand in the summer

      It has depleted uranium in it's groundwater from American munitions

      It had ISIS/ISIL attack it

      Millions were displaced, hundreds of thousands were killed, and it got privatized into oblivion by IMF/World bank loans with greedy contractors like Halliburton licking their chops

      I'm pretty sure it is much worse then it was pre American involvement

    • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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      11 months ago

      There's plenty of shitty government around the world, including a bunch the US actively supports. It doesn't give the US the right to kick the door down and subject the people there to more instability and violence to further their geopolitical goals under the guise of "humanitarianism".

    • brain_in_a_box [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      So if Russia installs a regime better than the current one, their invasion is ok then?

      Also lol at not knowing the USA installed the Iraqi government.