• Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Except my country actually has a free press

    6 companies control all media in America

    doesn’t imprison detractors

    Julian Assange, and when they don't imprison them they just straight up murder them like they did with Gary Webb

    and has released the verifiable evidence of war crimes being committed

    Like the incubator babies? Or maybe you mean Iraq's WMDs

    The west doesn’t really need to do much propaganda

    lol, lmao

    dropping bombs on cities, targeting civilian buildings and infrastructure, and launching a full scale invasion of a sovereign country speaks for itself

    "The West" does all of this

      • Krause [he/him]@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        You claimed the West has free press and doesn't imprison detractors, I gave you 3 examples of how this is not true, how is this "whataboutism"?

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Whataboutism was originally used to defend Jim Crow any time the Soviet Union brought up how amerikkka is an apartheid state

        Whataboutism is an inherently thought terminating idea, to not be able to compare two similar things is downright anti human

        No it may be worse than that, even insects can compare two things

        Says a lot more about you that you even use that as an argument

        • el_abuelo@lemmy.ml
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          1 year ago

          The problem with your logic is that "they did it first, so we're going to do it second" leads to a never ending cycle of violence.

          I'm not saying it didn't happen, or doesn't matter because it's the West, I'm just saying that "west bad" is a fucking shit reason to kill 1m people invading another country.

              • boboblaw [he/him, they/them]
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                1 year ago

                No, I'm asking you for a solution to what you called a "problem with our logic".

                The problem with your logic is that "they did it first, so we're going to do it second" leads to a never ending cycle of violence.

                If you shouldn't respond to bad faith with bad faith, what should you do?