I find myself editing articles a lot more nowadays. Recently I was looking up some info on the Great Leap Forward and i was curious what the estimated death counts were listed as on Wikipedia. Of course they were all over the place, but mainly in the beginning and death count section were listed as 30 to 55 million. However, I knew this wasnt correct, as I had previously read a paper on an analysis that mentioned 15 million among the lowest estimates. So I edited 15 to 55 million throughout the whole article and added the estimates and academic sources for both 15 and 18 million excess death estimates. Just remember to always keep an eye on this kind of stuff cause wikipedia influences a lot of ppl in these sort of articles, and its easy enough to do edits if you know something is off or missing other info!
But it's so hard. Some weirdo is always watching the page and will revert it in a millisecond due to some obscure rule.
There's actually a Wikipedia rule called "ignore all rules" specifically for these situations. If a rule gets in the way of making a positive change, ignore it.
There's also a rule against "owning" a page by intentionally curating every facet of it.
Despite the decent rules, Wikipedia is dominated by Western busybody nerds who can't think of better things to do. Bringing things to the talk page is often a dead end, there's often a cadre of dorks waiting around to come up with reasons to exclude things. Sometimes it helps, popular articles on science aren't manipulated by the horde of creationists that want to Jesify everything.
The rules barely matter, it's just obsession and a popularity contest.
Hey, so, I'm glad you're after facts and truth and stuff, but also, no one can imagine the difference between 1 and 2 million let alone 15 and 30 million.
no one can imagine the difference between 1 and 2 million let alone 15 and 30 million.
I'm not trying to be a debatebro asshole, but there are mental tools that make this pretty easy. I agree these differences are not easy to intuit, but they can 100% be imagined and compared to real physical things with some calculation. People tend to not like doing that though:(
I think the only wikipedia page i've ever edited was the hot chicken sandwich one.
wikipedia is so annoying, im usually on my vpn and even after i login with my account they wont let me edit (not to mention protected articles).
You can't turn off your VPN? (really question, not trying to be snarky)
Yes that'll work but i forget to turn it back on most of the time.
I'm not sure I've ever had an edit similar to this that wasn't reverted almost immediately.
It's definitely worth taking it to the talk page then. I've won battles with a bit of patience.
any comrade dedicated enough to deal with the fascist nerds of wikipedia deserves a :hero-of-socialist-labor:
Gonna use my alt again because I don't want to dox myself.
I finished a 3 month RfC battle over a little "X number of people died in...communism" even though it was completely unsourced. Fuck chuds won't budge an inch. Yes, I won, but over a literal word in an article.
Wikipedia's admin discussion logs are wild. Here's a user named "OldBolshevik" arguing that userboxes stating that users are Communists should be banned.
Also I noticed no one has ever complained about my username despite it obviously lending support to a political party responsible for millions of murders. I chose it deliberately as a test to see if anyone would care, but apparently not. Its fine to name yourself after a political responsible for millions of deaths on here. Says a lot about bias on here...
lmao how pathetic
I would like to challenge anyone to add information about Daniel Larsen to Kamala Harris' article.
