(Bloomberg) -- Chinese regulators summoned gaming companies including Tencent Holdings Ltd. and Netease Inc. to discuss further oversight of the industry and the need to deemphasize profits, prompting a steep share selloff.Tencent, the country’s largest gaming company, dived as much as 6.7%, on track for its biggest fall since July, while smaller rival Netease fell as much as 7.7%.The Publicity Department of the Communist Party of China’s Central Committee, the National Press and Publication Adm
I did and was unimpressed. If you can tell me that they're also going to go after female performers, then maybe I could believe that it's actually about the industry. Otherwise, it's blatantly homophobic and defending it is cringe.
These unrealistic body standards are not associated with gay men in China, instead the unrealistic body standards for gay men are basically body builder style "low body fat large muscles" bodies, that's per a femboy currently living in China. They stated that these guys are almost all straight.
You're projecting your own association between a style and a sexual orientation onto another country.
LGBT rights include being able to present however you choose, especially with regards to gender identity. Banning a male style because it's "effeminate" is anti-LGBT regardless of whether or not the style is associated with same-sex attraction.
God, stop playing dumb, asshole. That style isn't effeminate and if it were banned it wouldn't be on the explicit grounds that it's effeminate. You know damn well that it's not comparable.
Yeah, but the whole point is that if in China, effeminacy isn't associated with LGBT men, then calling this homophobic on the grounds specifically that it's anti-effeminate is imposing your own cultural standards on China.
In my hypothetical we'd be banning promotion of a style associated with privileged rich straight guys, which is exactly what's happening in reality in China.
Even though you said "regardless of whether or not the style is associated with same-sex attraction" you're obviously implicitly treating it as self evident that effeminacy is associated with gay men and not straight men.
You communicated this effectively and your point on gender expression varying across cultures is an important one.
A major point I’ve seen made is that the specific aesthetic they mentioned is associated with plastic surgery, specifically the 双眼皮 (“double eyelid”) surgery, which is done to make people look more “western” (eg white). It was unsurprisingly popularized in occupied South Korea.
I did and was unimpressed. If you can tell me that they're also going to go after female performers, then maybe I could believe that it's actually about the industry. Otherwise, it's blatantly homophobic and defending it is cringe.
Did you actually read the thread on gzd?
These unrealistic body standards are not associated with gay men in China, instead the unrealistic body standards for gay men are basically body builder style "low body fat large muscles" bodies, that's per a femboy currently living in China. They stated that these guys are almost all straight.
You're projecting your own association between a style and a sexual orientation onto another country.
I don't give half a shit.
LGBT rights include being able to present however you choose, especially with regards to gender identity. Banning a male style because it's "effeminate" is anti-LGBT regardless of whether or not the style is associated with same-sex attraction.
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God, stop playing dumb, asshole. That style isn't effeminate and if it were banned it wouldn't be on the explicit grounds that it's effeminate. You know damn well that it's not comparable.
Yeah, but the whole point is that if in China, effeminacy isn't associated with LGBT men, then calling this homophobic on the grounds specifically that it's anti-effeminate is imposing your own cultural standards on China.
In my hypothetical we'd be banning promotion of a style associated with privileged rich straight guys, which is exactly what's happening in reality in China.
Even though you said "regardless of whether or not the style is associated with same-sex attraction" you're obviously implicitly treating it as self evident that effeminacy is associated with gay men and not straight men.
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PPB yourself chauvinist.
God I fucking hate you people.
Here's an actual response, even though PPB is all this really deserves.
Having read your more drawn out explanation, you're absolutely right that this could be harmful to trans and NB people.
Sorry I didn't pick up on your meaning before, or think of this myself.
Thanks, sorry I got frustrated and didn't take more time to explain.
No you're fine, it's easy to get passionate over this kind of topic for obvious reasons.
You communicated this effectively and your point on gender expression varying across cultures is an important one.
A major point I’ve seen made is that the specific aesthetic they mentioned is associated with plastic surgery, specifically the 双眼皮 (“double eyelid”) surgery, which is done to make people look more “western” (eg white). It was unsurprisingly popularized in occupied South Korea.