Volcel jokes aside, that's unfortunate.
Overall, I do think China is on the right track. but they def. have their issues with trying to legislate morality a little too much.
I don't think Gianna Michaels/hentai is going to inspire the populace to take up arms in a capitalist revolution.
From the sound of it, it's already pretty freely available.
Then the policy in place is even more pointless then, no?
They don't seem to think so.
Well maybe the Chinese government isn't 100% infallible with only laws that are completely necessary.
They're not but I don't think this is one of those cases.
If I ran a government, and said there was a ban on peanut butter, but the populace still regularly got peanut butter anyway, what would be the actual point of my ban exactly?
It would probably have the effect of reducing peanut butter consumption to a level below what would happen if it was legalized.
I don't blame China for not wanting to fully open the porn spigot. It's probably wise as a precautionary measure.
Okay, are you an unironic volcel or something? lol
Freely available porn doesn't corrupt people or "the culture" or whatever you're implying there.
I don't really think that's been proven yet.
...I think that's about all I need to hear.
you assuming there is absolutely no harm being done by pornography is by far the more absurd position, particularly when the alternative is "we're not sure yet"
I'm willing to bet whatever harm there is is negligible to the average, well-adjusted adult.
perhaps. but without evidence you're just making a statement of belief. have you considered there might be more to the position maintained by the other side than "i'm willing to bet based on precisely nothing"?
As stated elsewhere, I'm sure there is a reason, but based on the past history of pornography bans, there's very high odds that it's not all that good and not based on any actual logic.
If it's pointless, then you're angry at an immaterial ideal rather than the material reality of the citizens themselves. You're objecting, as an outsider, to something of no consequence. People who live there experience the material conditions, so you're just vaguely gesticulating on suppositions and hypotheticals. As a Marxist-Leninist, I hereby banish you to the :gulag:
US "freedom" brainwashing has gotten the best of us, comrade. Material conditions are what affect people the most
I just think it's silly to ban grown adults from freely watching other grown adults fuck.
Prove it :shrug-outta-hecks:
Prove...what? That it's silly to do that?
Okay, look at everywhere that does freely allow pornography. By and large porn being available doesn't significantly hurt anyone in those places, so why would it be any different in China?
Is there any reason China shouldn't? Who is significantly harmed in a tangible way by this? Also Japan's got some pretty fucked up stuff going on with its hentai, and I think there's an easy argument to be made that it negatively impacts the people there.
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Yeah, I agree that hentai is a symptom, not a cause of the awful culture around sex that Japan suffers from. Like, a lot of men feel guilt or shame for having sexual desire, and that sucks.
I appreciate the acknowledgement that it most likely does impact the social status of women and on that grounds might warrant banning.
"However, in my opinion, arguing that the excesses of Hentai are the specific reason for the alienation [...]"
I didn't say this, but I'm sure someone has.
I mostly brought up hentai because OP made the claim that porn usually doesn't harm people and I threw it in there sorta just to be petty.
My point to OP remains though: if he doesn't believe the legislation is even effective, then what harm is it doing? What tangible consequence is he objecting to?