y'know considering all the antivaxx and lolbertarian sentiment

      • fuckwit [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        Honestly, Afghanistan alone makes him better than Clinton, Obama, Bush, Sr., and Trump. The bar is in an absolute abyss but he's been better for sure.

        It's honestly hard to pick the worst out of the other four, they're all so fucking bad.

        Objectively, you could say Bush. But then Senior fathered him and his war mongering and was the head of the CIA. Obama continued the wars, made them worse, and was the Trojan horse that wrecked the left. Capitalism literally owes Bill Clinton. Trump was only there for 4 years so the amount of damage he did was not as bad but he played a massive part in deteriorating racial tensions as much as people love to deny and was on the brink of causing a war with Iran by killing their third most important figure.

          • Haste_Hall [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I think there's a solid chance that we at least wouldn't have invaded and occupied Iraq.

            • penisshitass99100 [any]
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              3 years ago

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Liberation_Act

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_bombing_of_Iraq

              Gore 100% would have bombed Iraq. The writing was on the wall even before 9/11

              • Haste_Hall [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Damn dude a bombing really is the same as a fucking invasion huh?

                You people are brain poisoned.

                • penisshitass99100 [any]
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                  3 years ago

                  Yes my brain is poisoned because I don't want parents and children dying for bullshit imperialist wars. Fuck you liberal

              • Haste_Hall [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I am saying that just by not doing Iraq he would have been several orders of magnitude better than Bush.

                  • Haste_Hall [he/him]
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                    3 years ago

                    I am not saying "good."

                    I am specifically against flattening Bush and Gore down into some "both bad" take. One is clearly worse.

        • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Jesus I hadn't thought about it, but you're right.

          EDIT: that ending the war in Afghanistan on its own makes him the best president in decades, to clarify

          • Three_Magpies [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            The war isn’t over, from what I know. I think they’re just going to have mercenaries / contractors working in there and drone strike from now on