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Yeah, I fit this demographic, but I don't have the hobbies of man-children
I'm never going to understand how so many online dipshits have managed to delude themselves into thinking that socialism and antinatalism are somehow compatible.
"I believe that we should fight for a better future for humankind, and I also believe that humankind should die out"
Bruh, what? :what-the-hell:
“I believe that we should fight for a better future for humankind, and I also believe that humankind should die out”
It's all for the sake of the true socialist creatures, dolphins.
Bringing a child into this capitalist hellhole of a world, knowing it will have to work and will be alienated from that labor, is cruel and wrong. Not really very hard to understand
What if you’re a rich capitalist, then can you have kids? So even something as basic as being a parent is financially out of reach of the working class?
we need young people to fight in the revolution and it's hardly any parent's fault for living in a capitalist hegemony when they had a kid.
Kids don't just appear out of nowhere though. It absolutely is the parents' fault for creating a life they know will be filled with suffering for no real reason.
Also there will be no revolution. We lost. It's over. The capitalists are using climate change and automation to just run down the clock
haha yes I do not at all understand this position so i will assume what people holding it believe and then mock them for it :very-intelligent:
The whole idea of socialism is the concept of a better future, of getting to the next, better stage. Don't let capitalist realism take over you.
And if you think we should have a future, I’d like you to look at the former and justify the later.
God damn dude if you think humanity doesn't "deserve" a future then why even bother with the pretense of being a socialist? As if the question of whether humanity "deserves" a future has ever mattered! We're mammals! The humans that are around are, in aggregate, going to struggle to survive and reproduce even if a few of them have depressed themselves into not doing so.
Because they're God-damn trendy ass posers who think "socialism" means "being nice and good" and will drop it for some "Green" austerity "degrowth" bullshit when the dying Boomers try to crash the economy on their way out.
All right well now we've raced right past "challenging our comrade to abandon ideological views which lead to obvious dead ends" straight into "non-sequitir into just being a prick". Great job there.
Sorry. I have a very low Poe's Law threshold when it comes to the arguments of antinatalists who push their views and resentments on others.
Climate/Economical nihilism is just as harmful an ideology as neoliberalism.
You can be skeptical and negative, doesn't mean you should convince others to be apathetic too.
Humankind should wait to have kids until it finishes the fight for a better future.
idk, with a surplus of humans in the world, and many children in poverty, I think adoption should be majority of the new generation. i'd definitely prefer not to have children (unless I find a god-tier wife who'd convince me to do anything) but I can't honestly defend not adopting and creating a whole new child to burden the earth
yeah gross terminology, sorry. Not enough distribution for resources yet unfortunately. So as a person from the west/middle-ish class you should probably bring in some disadvantaged children instead of bringing in new lifeforms.
while fossil fuels and major plastics rot the earth, I'd prefer keeping up the welfare of a person already on earth rather than bringing in a new person
i agree and i've already taken steps to sterilize myself with vague plans to adopt in the future if possible. that said, my point remains.
online dipshits have managed to delude themselves into thinking that socialism and antinatalism are somehow compatible.
Stalinists: "abortion is petite bourgeois family planning"
“I believe that we should fight for a better future for humankind, and I also believe that humankind should die out”
"I want to live in socialism but I am deeply offended by the idea that wage slaves should not have lots of babies to be thrown into the maw of industry"
Socialism for the time being while humans die out. Done solved it.
Antinatalists are weird. I'm never having kids, but I don't feel the need to base an ideology around it. You can just do/not do a thing without creating a subreddit fandom about it.
It was a decent place to vent about the very real familial and societal pressures to procreate. But like anything, some took it too far.
I agree that anitnatalist as an identity is super weird. But our culture insist on making everything an indenty so it's not super unique to them.
Not having kids so you can spend your money on shelves of children's toys lmao
All I'm saying is someone who's actually feels secure about choosing not to have kids wouldn't spend time making a meme like this...
They're trying to justify their choice to themselves by justifying it the strangers on the internet
Listen, my materialist analysis has led me to the conclusion that any communist that has kids will create mini kamala's and ratboys. I'm doing the world a service :rat-salute:
That bottom right one. That's me.
I don't want to be a dad, I want to be the one that my younger relatives look up to but definitely should not be a parent lol
Uncle/Aunt/Uhhhh nonbinary pals help me out with the third one Magic is Real
https://twitter.com/ninaoyama/status/1084357877253300227?s=19
My main issue with antinatalist memes and the vibe of those communities is how fucking bitter they come across while insisting to others that they're happy and having a great time, which always makes me feel uncomfortable and makes it hard to believe they're being honest.
