"there are now 7 classes, every time a marxist complains we will add another class"

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    The labor aristocracy isn't a class, there are two classes and lots of contradictions and bad class consciousness, fuck the middle class.

      • furryanarchy [comrade/them,they/them]
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        3 years ago

        The lumpen are different from regular proles in the same way the labor aristocracy is. If lumpen are a different class, so are PMC. Unless I'm misunderstanding or missing something.

        • mittens [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          i don't think the lumpen is a distinct class, they're regular prole that don't distinguish themselves as prole. PMCs are meant to be a different class, somewhere between proletariat and bourgeoisie

            • mittens [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Pretty sure petit bourgeoisie are managers and small business owners, they employ people. PMCs employ nobody but have either technical skills and/or college education that guarantees them a comfy spot in a company. It's a pretty transient class, I wouldn't rely on it for material analysis tbh.

              • SovietSwine [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                Well it depends on what role a PMC has within a company. If they are, like you say, just someone that gets to have a well paying job within the company then yeah they aren't the petit bourgeoisie, but to me the term can also mean mid level managers, i.e. a stage below owners/shareholders/executives who represent the bourgeoisie, but who do not rely on their labor for income, instead relying on placing themselves high enough above the proletariat to reap benefits from being a lackey to the bourgeoisie in the form of managing the proletariat, which I would classify as petit bourgeois. However I also think this distinction is not that important when analysing the overall relationship between capital and labor.