My dates get really stoked when we trash maga chud trumpers, but when I whip out my "Obama is a war criminal" or "we should install communism" routines, it def kills the mood
My dates get really stoked when we trash maga chud trumpers, but when I whip out my "Obama is a war criminal" or "we should install communism" routines, it def kills the mood
Maybe don't throw out "Obama is a war criminal" on the first date. That's probably something for a bit later when they respect your opinion and are willing to listen to you. Lol.
lmao I'm imagining this playing out and it's great.
"Seen a good movie lately?"
"Obama is a war criminal"
"Is-is that a movie?"
"No, it's just factually correct."
:gigachad-hd: new volcel strategy just dropped
Saw this happen in real life the other day lol
Two guys sit down next to me at a bar, get started talking, it's apparent it's a first date. Within like 30 seconds, one of them mentions not getting Papa Johns because he said the n word and then sort of jumps straight from there into a 10 minute long discussion on how he hates having to walk on eggshells around white people but how they always say lowkey offensive shit all the time and gets into a broader discussion of race and personal relationships.
It was so funny because his (white) date was clearly on board with all of it but also hadn't said more than like 20 words the entire date by the time the mini race relations seminar was finished and clearly didn't know exactly what role he should have in a super intense race discussion with his (black) date he had just introduced himself to.
I've heard of similar things happening with my friends (on both sides of the conversation) after covid lockdowns eased up. Everyone just spent a year melting their brain staring into the abyss online and the second they get an opportunity to talk these things out with someone IRL they just swing for the fences.
That's a good thing actually. People talking about that stuff in real life, especially where others can hear them like that rules
It's a good thing to say and I agreed with all the dude's points, but if I went on a date where the other person started it out by monologuing at me for 10 minutes on literally any serious topic, especially one about which my response or input is largely irrelevant, I would be out of there.
that shit would turn me on. they're smart and right.
same lol. Current GF did and does very similar things, so do I for that matter. Rants are good so long as you're correct in your righteous indignation.
I've ruined multiple nice lunches because someone asks me if Irish people are white, or says "I'm not communist, I'm ukranian" and I just forget how I was supposed to react and tear into them. I also love people saying "have you done your research on Israel?" and then just saying "it's too complex for me" after it's clear I have.
I made someone visibly unhappy because she was excited about going to see Hamilton and remembered that I had said (a while back) that I don't like LMM. She asked me why and I tried multiple times to brush it off and then finally I just dropped all of the info on how he's an austerity pushing colonialist. She took the news pretty hard but I don't know what she expected.
You at least tried to brush it off, so you remembered your socialization. I just go right for the jugular on impulse these days unless I prepare myself carefully beforehand.
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Yeah, sometimes people just keep asking and won't drop it
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It's the scene from Spider-Man 2 where Peter is complaining to Uncle Ben about how he doesn't want to be Spider-Man anymore in a dream, but Mao is slapping me upside the head while yelling about the types of liberalism.
I'm honored anything I do in life can actually be considered in lines with revolution.
Like a god damn bed sheet. You didn't ruin those nice lunches, fam. They did.
I always say Irish people aren't. We weren't once and I'll never see myself as one. You can't really define what it means to be white, just what isn't white. I acknowledge I have white privilege and currently benefit from colonialism, that sort of thing. But I firmly believe "white" people are an adversary and I'm only temporarily safe until whiteness is no more.
You should bring up Noel Ignatiev on you dates :thonk:
I'm pleased you think I go on dates.
I think in the US Irish people are pretty explicitly white, if you're in the UK you definitely have a point though
I'm from burgerland. I know in a "real" examination of race, and by that I mean if you are comparing housing of white people versus minorities or education levels or something actually important, Irish people are white. buried in a rant I wrote the other day about my relationship to being of Irish descent you can get the feel that I know Irish culture in America is dead, subsumed into whiteness. I wouldn't say I'm POC on a survey. But, in a very meaningful sense, I don't see myself as white.
I wasn't so much correcting as agreeing. I get what you mean.
this is praxis. Don't self-censor
it leads to people not talking to me more than them waking up
:party-sicko: That fucking rules lmao.
radicalization speed run go
Lmao
"It's, um, a documentary."
Advice that could only be given sincerely on this website
maybe just dont date losers lmao
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I feel like this advice could also be applied more generally to how Western leftists have been so unsuccessful at winning over the masses.
In fairness, communists do disdain to conceal their views and aims.
In the book "How the left can win" theres a good bit of the book where (and I'm heavily paraphrasing) the author talks about how in the US ideology and vocabulary is formed through connections to institutions and in order to converse with people you have to meet them on their level to get anywhere.
Which I think is great advice. If someone retreats at socialism/communism/etc change the wording to something they'll be more open to and chip away at those things.
"Workplace democracy" is a great example of where socialist ideals are reframed in something much more palpable to an American context.
Yes. Leftists should learn about the mass line .