My dates get really stoked when we trash maga chud trumpers, but when I whip out my "Obama is a war criminal" or "we should install communism" routines, it def kills the mood
Maybe don't throw out "Obama is a war criminal" on the first date. That's probably something for a bit later when they respect your opinion and are willing to listen to you. Lol.
lmao I'm imagining this playing out and it's great.
"Seen a good movie lately?"
"Obama is a war criminal"
"Is-is that a movie?"
"No, it's just factually correct."
Saw this happen in real life the other day lol
Two guys sit down next to me at a bar, get started talking, it's apparent it's a first date. Within like 30 seconds, one of them mentions not getting Papa Johns because he said the n word and then sort of jumps straight from there into a 10 minute long discussion on how he hates having to walk on eggshells around white people but how they always say lowkey offensive shit all the time and gets into a broader discussion of race and personal relationships.
It was so funny because his (white) date was clearly on board with all of it but also hadn't said more than like 20 words the entire date by the time the mini race relations seminar was finished and clearly didn't know exactly what role he should have in a super intense race discussion with his (black) date he had just introduced himself to.
I've heard of similar things happening with my friends (on both sides of the conversation) after covid lockdowns eased up. Everyone just spent a year melting their brain staring into the abyss online and the second they get an opportunity to talk these things out with someone IRL they just swing for the fences.
That's a good thing actually. People talking about that stuff in real life, especially where others can hear them like that rules
It's a good thing to say and I agreed with all the dude's points, but if I went on a date where the other person started it out by monologuing at me for 10 minutes on literally any serious topic, especially one about which my response or input is largely irrelevant, I would be out of there.
same lol. Current GF did and does very similar things, so do I for that matter. Rants are good so long as you're correct in your righteous indignation.
I've ruined multiple nice lunches because someone asks me if Irish people are white, or says "I'm not communist, I'm ukranian" and I just forget how I was supposed to react and tear into them. I also love people saying "have you done your research on Israel?" and then just saying "it's too complex for me" after it's clear I have.
I made someone visibly unhappy because she was excited about going to see Hamilton and remembered that I had said (a while back) that I don't like LMM. She asked me why and I tried multiple times to brush it off and then finally I just dropped all of the info on how he's an austerity pushing colonialist. She took the news pretty hard but I don't know what she expected.
You at least tried to brush it off, so you remembered your socialization. I just go right for the jugular on impulse these days unless I prepare myself carefully beforehand.
It's the scene from Spider-Man 2 where Peter is complaining to Uncle Ben about how he doesn't want to be Spider-Man anymore in a dream, but Mao is slapping me upside the head while yelling about the types of liberalism.
I'm honored anything I do in life can actually be considered in lines with revolution.
Irish people are white
Like a god damn bed sheet. You didn't ruin those nice lunches, fam. They did.
I always say Irish people aren't. We weren't once and I'll never see myself as one. You can't really define what it means to be white, just what isn't white. I acknowledge I have white privilege and currently benefit from colonialism, that sort of thing. But I firmly believe "white" people are an adversary and I'm only temporarily safe until whiteness is no more.
I think in the US Irish people are pretty explicitly white, if you're in the UK you definitely have a point though
I'm from burgerland. I know in a "real" examination of race, and by that I mean if you are comparing housing of white people versus minorities or education levels or something actually important, Irish people are white. buried in a rant I wrote the other day about my relationship to being of Irish descent you can get the feel that I know Irish culture in America is dead, subsumed into whiteness. I wouldn't say I'm POC on a survey. But, in a very meaningful sense, I don't see myself as white.
I wasn't so much correcting as agreeing. I get what you mean.
Maybe don’t throw out “Obama is a war criminal” on the first date.
Advice that could only be given sincerely on this website
I feel like this advice could also be applied more generally to how Western leftists have been so unsuccessful at winning over the masses.
In fairness, communists do disdain to conceal their views and aims.
In the book "How the left can win" theres a good bit of the book where (and I'm heavily paraphrasing) the author talks about how in the US ideology and vocabulary is formed through connections to institutions and in order to converse with people you have to meet them on their level to get anywhere.
Which I think is great advice. If someone retreats at socialism/communism/etc change the wording to something they'll be more open to and chip away at those things.
"Workplace democracy" is a great example of where socialist ideals are reframed in something much more palpable to an American context.
The secret is converting everyone you date into leftists.
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Ngl all it takes is time and facts to get people to move leftward. Especially for the non-political
Any dating space that specifically catered to leftists would be an obvious FBI/CIA honeypot, so on the off chance you do find something, probably don't use it.
"honey you need to buy these bomb ingredients to prove you love me" :fedposting:
I wrote "If you like to drink good beer and fight capitalism, then we should hang out." Our first conversation was about eating Bezos.
Now we live together :)
When I put in my bio that I was a leftist I stopped getting matches. :side-eye-1:
:LIB: area?
A lot would rather date a Republican than a communist
use masterful pick up lines like "hey girl I heard you were really into agricultural mechanization but I'd really like to hammer your sickle"
Where do I meet leftist anythings? I've never met anyone who's farther left than performative lib in real life. I guess living in rural America will do that, but still.
that's why many leftists/young people/minorities/LGBT+/etc move to the cities.
Looking for people who correlate with radical politics, like queer people and vegans, can be helpful. Most should be at least succdems and you def should be able to move any former bernie bro over to the left. Libs in general are easy enough too if you're dating them, especially if they work shit jobs. Just don't be weird about it — talk about their issues, connect it back to capitalism, then once they're staunchly anti-capitalist start talking about history.
Leftist dog whistles in any online dating profiles are also helpful
Just use Marxist language like "surplus value" and "proletariat". No one who isn't at least somewhat leftist uses those. Maybe principled fascists, but those are unicorns.
Also "material conditions" can be worked into drunk convos about politics and economy bullshit
Drunk convos I usually just start talking about proletarian revolution and how we need to arm the workers and minorities. Surprisingly few people disagree with me
When I was a lib the last thing I would have done if someone started talking about armed revolution would be to vocalize my disagreement. That’s “smile and nod” territory for a lot of people
Lol, I usually do it around service workers and they have input. Definitely not smile and nod responses, though I do occasionally run into them.
I talk about material conditions when talking to teenagers about a lot of life decision stuff. Turns out no one does this with them so they tend to appreciate someone being real about it. It’s all “you can be anything” and idealistic self-actualization and choosing a job that you “love”.
No. If you do not work, cannot convince that state that you are unable to work, and have no one able to fully support you, you will die. If you have a baby at 16, that medical bill is going to be 5 figures easy. If you get put on probation, you’re significantly more likely to get caught doing illegal shit even if you’re doing the just as much as your peers and that starts you down a pipeline that leads straight to being in and out of jail.
And so much of school is just “everyone’s busy working and letting 16yo’s roam the city until they’re old enough to work is a bad idea”. I remember feeling like I was being babysat and I’d imagine kids felt this a lot more during quarantine
you could do the "joking-but-not-really" thing chuds do to test the waters, i've found guillotine "jokes" to do this quite well
Oh yeah. "No <x>, no masters", "solidarity", most Marxist terms, Marx quotes ("by force if necessary" etc), "eat the rich", talking about John Brown, that sort of thing
“by force if necessary”
This is how you accidentally catch a confused Reaganoid.
we love our pig with poop on its balls but isn't it a pretty widespread meme among people in general too?
It used to be, but I'm pretty sure we've laid claim to it by this point.
Oh yeah. I usually put a line in my dating profile that’s something like “eat the rich” or “I like weed and hate capitalism” or if there are question prompts I’ve done “what’s your perfect first date?””overthrowing capitalism”. Stuff like that.
im a leftist girl but what i did to find my bf is i just said 'socialists only' on my profile and had 99.9% of men ignore that text and just waited for a guy to mention he's a socialist
so maybe if your dating app has a search function search for 'socialist' or something
And then there I was swiping only after reading every bio instead of matching and reading the bio before I sent a message (not that it's a whole lot better that way)
shoutout to the christian guy that called me a satanic demon that should be shot after reading that
got me a free subscription when i complained about it. i was just like 'why are you matching trans women with fundamentalist shitbags you weirdos give me the option to filter them out' and then they did
I’m maybe not the best for advice on this; my partner’s dating profile picture was her in black bloc throwing a brick at a cop.
sexyyyyy
Uh so you see, jack, what you gotta do is, uh, read Foucault, Marx, and uh Fanon so you can have something to, uh, say to the many, uh, long legged socialists, smooth skinned sociology majors, and ethereal bisexuals you will find in the DSA.
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