I meant criticism from Chinese citizens, lol. They clearly do not care about Hexbear, this site only affects its (mostly American) audience.
The US government doesn't care about Hexbear either, though. My point is that criticizing a policy before it happens is totally valid. To the extent that I have a voice, I would prefer to use said voice in opposition to bad things.
“There’s some evidence China is suppressing effeminate characters in video games” isn’t the same as “this western article’s analysis of that evidence as ‘gay people banned from Chinese games’ is credible, let’s argue about it”.
Who said that? All I've been saying is that there's enough that's been confirmed as true to conclude that it's bad.
All I’ve been saying is that there’s enough that’s been confirmed as true to conclude that it’s bad.
If this is all you're saying, I agree with you. The "sissy aesthetic" thing is bad, and needs to be reevaluated.
Edit: all I'm saying is that that doesn't necessarily mean the framing and extrapolation in western articles is correct. If we agree on that, I'm pretty sure we're not even arguing here.
Yeah my disagreement was with OP dismissing it as "fake," when there's evidence that some of it has been confirmed true and none of it has been confirmed false.
I agree OPs being an ass in this thread, but a new claim is beiing made about China in the OP (banning queer people from games) and the evidence advanced in this thread so far doesn't substantiate it.
The leaked document is out there, we won't have to wait long for analysis from a more credible source. I'll wait until then to make my criticisms.
The document also expressed its commitment to combating so-called sissy men and danmei — risqué online fan fiction — as well as traffic-oriented content in the gaming industry.
I feel like I must be speaking a different language from you. A document expressing a commitment to ban sissy men from video games clearly substantiates the claim that China is looking to ban queer characters from video games.
What I'm saying is the "sissy aesthetic" stuff is different from banning same sex relationships, which is the subject of this thread. The former has been covered, is true, and is bad. The latter bans queer characters generally, and would be considerably worse.
The US government doesn't care about Hexbear either, though. My point is that criticizing a policy before it happens is totally valid. To the extent that I have a voice, I would prefer to use said voice in opposition to bad things.
Who said that? All I've been saying is that there's enough that's been confirmed as true to conclude that it's bad.
If this is all you're saying, I agree with you. The "sissy aesthetic" thing is bad, and needs to be reevaluated.
Edit: all I'm saying is that that doesn't necessarily mean the framing and extrapolation in western articles is correct. If we agree on that, I'm pretty sure we're not even arguing here.
Yeah my disagreement was with OP dismissing it as "fake," when there's evidence that some of it has been confirmed true and none of it has been confirmed false.
I agree OPs being an ass in this thread, but a new claim is beiing made about China in the OP (banning queer people from games) and the evidence advanced in this thread so far doesn't substantiate it.
The leaked document is out there, we won't have to wait long for analysis from a more credible source. I'll wait until then to make my criticisms.
I feel like I must be speaking a different language from you. A document expressing a commitment to ban sissy men from video games clearly substantiates the claim that China is looking to ban queer characters from video games.
What I'm saying is the "sissy aesthetic" stuff is different from banning same sex relationships, which is the subject of this thread. The former has been covered, is true, and is bad. The latter bans queer characters generally, and would be considerably worse.