There's something evil about how people try to recreate their bad relationship at work with their parents at home. It's that whole only dreams of the oppressed is to become the oppress thing and power dynamic recreation, but ti's also just disgusting and sick, how do people not wake up and see they are making love a paid commodity? Familial love, the kind which should always be flowing between members until one commits and evil act.
it's disgusting that they hate them in a systemic way. I understands its because they've been programmed to always think in capitalist terms about wages and how everyone else is draining them, and the alienation and atomization, but it makes me sick to see it to this extreme, fighting what is the main part of whatever "human nature" exists, which is care for family.
Do you seriously think the woman from the OP hates her children, because she pays them to put away their clothes and brush their teeth?
Nah, it was her eyes that make me think she's a psycho.
Besides, a lot of parents hate their children unadmitely, but no, I don't think this is the case.
Nah, it was her eyes that make me think she’s a psycho.
RBF but eyes, okay.
What's RBF?
I mean, the "taxes/bills" she imposes on her children is pretty deranged/stupid. If it wasn't for that, if the brat really doesn't wanna help around the house, it's fine to pay them for it I guess.
And when I saw her smiling stupidly totally proud of her idiotic "make my children pay bills" system, it gave me the feeling she hates her child. That's it, just a hunch.
It's some kind of coping mechanism, I think, having experienced the same kind of attitude but not to the degree in the OP. It's like a "why do I have to be miserable, be forced to work this job and do this to take care of you but you don't have to it too?" kind of thing. Parents wanting to share misery because handling it all alone hurts too much. It gets rationalized as building character and work ethic, which just like super strict parenting, usually backfires. But the source is a desire to share your pain with others by inflicting it on them too. Or it's a jealously. You go through so much shit to keep your children comfortable and it's something you yourself can't have. You have to take the burden of responsibility and labor for them. The solution being that we as a society need to unburden parents.
this feels right. on top of that, i think people who become parents at a young age (like the ones who think they should be making tiktok videos even though they have 7 year old kids - get off that shit, mom, you're old) haven't always developed an understanding of the world, so they just continue shit they see happening around them without critically analyzing it. like, a kid should brush his teeth because it's the right thing to do, not cuz you get paid (or lose money) if you don't. intrinsic rewards >
If you aren't trying to make life easier for the next generation, you are a legitimately shitty person.
man "forcing your child to work for no reason instead of allowing them to be a child" is second only to spanking discourse as far as attracting people who say "my parents did this and i'm fine" when they are demonstrably not fine
Yup.
i liked this response
the most fucked up part is rushing to teach your kids that doing things for other people is always transactional in nature. everyone should help clean up because you live in a fuckin house together and respect each other, not whatever this is
What a depressing relationship to have with your child. In ten or so years, she's going to wonder why they left and didn't come back.
The one reply making this out to be worse than farmers pumping out children for free farm hands :what-the-hell:
I love it when you get someone who doesn't pick up on the actual severity of a dunk and then just posts / tweets wildly unhinged shit.
I think it’s awful to make children worry about bills, but with most of these scenarios I also view this more as a systemic issue than an individual one.
The mother feels the need to teach her child about the world at a young age because she doesn’t want them to be killed by the system. If we didn’t have bills she wouldn’t have this fear.
Why are we mad about this? Look at the jobs on the task list: put away your dirty clothes, brush your teeth, make your bed, etc.
They should be doing these things anyway (except making their bed, bed making is fascist but thats just my opinion) and they're getting an allowance for it. The bill paying thing is obviously an attempt by the parent to get the kid to develop sound financial habits, because as much as we all hate it, we all have to pay bills every month.
Most people here view bills as hella stressful, so the idea of putting that stress on a kid is pretty gross.
The payout rate is also kinda sus.
Why insulate children from the pains of life under capitalism when we could betray both their innocence and trust in adults in one fell swoop?
Anyway, I'm off to drop my first grader off at the call center for his internship. Never too young to start the hustle!!!!
What could possibly be wrong with making a 7 year old pay rent and utilities?
I don't think teaching financial responsibility is a bad idea, but this just seems like an especially psychotic way to do it. Would be fine if it was just the dollar per chore alongside to use for whatever toys/games/stuff the child wanted with the understanding that their parents wouldn't be doing it for them if they went "broke".
What could possibly be wrong with making a 7 year old pay rent and utilities
Do you think the kid is going to get evicted if she can't pay?
The money is just going into a savings account for the kid, it's not like the mom is exploiting her surplus value.
Of course they won't get evicted, which makes the whole idea of paying "rent" useless if you're trying show them that financial responsibility is important and consequential. Again, I see no reason to do this when you could just have them pay for their own toys if you really want to instill that. Even the ipad and wifi access is fine, I guess, given that's like a legit privilege for a 7yo. But imposing a landlord/tenant dynamic over the parent/child one at such a developmental stage, even as superficial as it is in this example, is bound to cause some issues in the relationship later on.
Bed making is great what are you talking about, who doesn't prefer climbing into a well made bed at night? Maybe it's bourgeois decadence but it doesn't require exploitative labor so I'm gonna keep doing it
you never have to make the bed if you never get /inside/ the sheets :think-about-it:
blanket on top of bed gang (until it gets too cold)
typical petit-bourgeois radlib ludditism
sneering at novel labor saving practices :soviet-chad:
Under "Pay Day?" it just says $1/day
The kid can only afford 2 of the following: Rent, electricity, wifi
I assumed the bills were monthly so they’d only have to work 9 days a month. Still really messed up though.
