Get fucked, Elon lol

billionaire-tears

  • AlyxMS [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Worth mentioning that the title is somewhat click baity. BYD is expected to overtake Tesla this quarter, but hasn't happened yet.

    Will happen sooner or later though, imagine still selling the same old models after all these years, while pouring all your resources at:

    • An experimental pickup truck that nobody appears to like
    • A convertible sports car that will surely do well in this economy (Might be 400IQ play though, when it's out in 10 years, perhaps the demand for such a thing is up again)
    • A semi truck. Where weight and endurance is the key and the exact things battery powered cars are terrible at.

    Also brands selling everyday cars is almost guaranteed to out sell a more "premium" brand(well, I suppose the only thing premium about a Tesla is the price tag, but that's how they position themselves). Just compare Toyota and BMW. Surprised it didn't happen sooner.

    • wopazoo [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      A semi truck. Where weight and endurance is the key and the exact things battery powered cars are terrible at.

      The Tesla Semi actually does work economically for shorter routes. The massive savings in fuel costs makes it worth it.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv44W7xa4IU

    • AlyxMS [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Rage your dreams from initial D plays in the background

      Though BYD's insistence on writing it on the back of every car of theirs is kinda hurting their review a bit. Every one I've seen mentions it as a negative.

    • wopazoo [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      EVs are not more likely to catch on fire than gasoline/diesel vehicles.

      https://www.motortrend.com/features/you-are-wrong-about-ev-fires/

      And think about it. In a gasoline car, you literally have a tank filled with highly flammable and explosive liquid. The exploding EVs myth is a marketing ploy by oil companies to discourage EV adoption.

        • wopazoo [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          From the MotorTrend article:

          According to MSB data, there are nearly 611,000 EVs and hybrids in Sweden as of 2022. With an average of 16 EV and hybrid fires per year, there's a 1 in 38,000 chance of fire. There are a total of roughly 4.4 million gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles in Sweden, with an average of 3,384 fires per year, for a 1 in 1,300 chance of fire. That means gas- and diesel-powered passenger vehicles are 29 times more likely to catch fire than EVs and hybrids.

          Tesla, being the largest EV brand, is included in this statistic.

            • wopazoo [he/him]
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              6 months ago

              I'm not sure what you're trying to say here. I'm trying to push back against anti-EV sentiment, which necessarily involves pushing against the idea that Teslas randomly explode just because they feel like it. You can't just say that Teslas are special creatures that randomly explode without painting EVs in general with the same brush, because there's really nothing special about Tesla powertrains. Whenever you drive a gasoline car, keep in mind that you are carrying around 40+ litres of highly flammable, explosive, and reactive liquid in a tin can mounted at the bottom of the vehicle. Gasoline cars literally explode after catching on fire. Claiming that Teslas (and thus EVs as a whole) are dangerous matchboxes is carrying water for the oil and gas industry.

              I am not trying to defend Tesla as a brand or claim that they make good vehicles. I personally would not buy a Tesla or recommend one to a friend. However, it's objectively incorrect to claim that Teslas are more likely to combust and explode than gasoline vehicles.

              To answer your original question about BYD, BYD has been doing battery tech for 28 years now. They're more of a battery company than a car company. I think it's safe to say that they have the expertise and experience to make safe electric vehicles.

  • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    Me waiting for Chinese automakers to flood the U.S. market with $10k electric cars despite massive trade tariffs because it's literally only a matter of time before they can make it profitable to do so by building in Mexico and then seeing all the domestic automakers shitting bricks because they steal a huge market share

    kirby-spin

    • Galli [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      best part of this scenario is that the US manufacturers use their hybrid/ev lines to subsidize their trucks. China taking US ev market share would raise truck prices comparative to evs starting a self reinforcing cascade destroying the entire US auto industry without government intervention (there would be though because the brainworms run deeep)

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Just read that Tesla is rushing out a mid lifecycle refresh of the Model Y for the China market because Chinese competitors have developed their interior designs so quickly that the Model Y now looks backwards by comparison.

  • D61 [any]
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    6 months ago

    Competition breeds innovation melon-musk

  • impartial_fanboy [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Admittedly, I don't know that much about BYD but if the rest of their business is anywhere near as scummy as the stupid monorail they're cozying up to the Bel-Air and Sherman Oaks HoA's with to try to kill the Sepulveda Subway in LA then I don't think this is much to celebrate.

    Fuck Elon of course.