https://www.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/q5vip5/breeding_isnt_a_basic_human_right_karen/ Holy shit what a cesspool this sub is, I guess just helps prove how absurdly radicalized and gross reddit can make anything

  • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    Problem: people cannot easily afford to have children.

    Solutions available: sterilize the poor, welfare.

    I'd ask "Which way, western man?", but we all know it's always eugenics with these types.

  • MiraculousMM [he/him, any]M
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    3 years ago

    [Parents] should not have any mental health problems that could impact their children yadda yadda.

    Considering everyone is depressed and alienated under capitalism this excludes just about everyone from being "allowed" to have children

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Also that policy was the same one the Nazi's had about disabled people. As a rule of thumb if you're position on anything especially who should be allowed to have kids is the same as Nazi Germany it is because you are wrong and also a bad person

        • dave297 [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          you do have to love them though it's God's gift to make any other leftist no matter how badly they need to go outside have someone to make fun of for needing to take a grill pill go outside and talk to people

    • TheDeed [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Majority of med students are rich sociopaths. To afford medical school, you have to come from a wealthy family. Usually to get into medical school, the kids have been groomed their whole lives for the entrance exam. Expensive prep schools, SAT prep for the undergrad, prep for the MCAT, private tutors, the whole nine.

      Even a kid of remarkable talent that came from hard circumstances and managed to get into school without all that would not be able to afford school and there’s no time to work while you’re in med school, so you have to have a wealthy family support you as you dedicate 100% of your time to studying.

      As a result, the doctors that come out of this are usually heartless and see the poor as a curiosity or as something to look down upon.

      Most people do it for the prestige and money - compassionate doctors are far and few inbetween in the USA. Cue the eugenics. This post does not surprise me in the slightest

      • fed [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        you are seriously over stating how hard med school is to get into and student loans are very easy to get.

        the whole prep stuff is really only true for the top ~5 med schools, if you can get in loans are not a problem to acquire

  • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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    3 years ago

    They say this like most people don't just neglect their kids anyway. Gee, I wonder why the abuse affluent and mostly white people commit doesn't occur to this person as wrong when compared to the one the poors do.

  • sokopsisss [none/use name]
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    3 years ago

    It's stuff like this where I get why some people end up hating or distrusting healthcare workers. The poor muslim woman who has a large family and needs healthcare is a Karen? The woman who said people need to be allowed to reproduce freely is a Karen? The woman who was beaten and needed you to help her is a Karen? Fucking hell, hope he flunks out.

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      This person takes the ever controversial anti-choice and anti-life stance I like to call it pro-death

  • 7DeadlyFetishes [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    We need a new Godwin's law but for Reddit where every thread will eventually turn into some dark intelectual web argument about Eugenics and inferior people

    -7DeadlyFetishes

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      any thread on reddit will eventually come up with Nazi policy about sterilising the disabled

    • dave297 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      because it is the poor parents who are wrong not the society that throws away food rather than feeding children

            • dave297 [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              That's a very badly made argument most people don't want to grow up poor with the inbuilt assumption that the alternative is to grow up rich if you asked someone if they want to grow up poor or simply never be born most serious answers would be grow up poor

              Also the unborn do not have bodily autonomy as they are not yet people the mother has bodily autonomy as she is a person

                • dave297 [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  well it is my experience so I don't think it can just be taken as an implicit assumption to make arguments about whether people should be allowed to have kids.

                  I also don't think it matters much because the unborn do not exist yet and are thus incapable of having rights or opinions about things. The fact is you are arguing for taking away the fundamental rights of a real human woman based on the opinion someone who doesn't exist might have someday

            • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Just give people welfare. It's a better solution than trying to prevent kids from being born into poor families, which wouldn't do anything anyways because the system requires poverty and would create it regardless.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I'm pretty sure that even by the pathetic, wildly lax and liberal standards of the UN, he is just wrong, and trying to deny "Karen" her right to breed qualifies as an act of genocide under international law.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: killing members of the group; causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life, calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; [and] forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

      Emphasis mine. Possibly, but only if it's "with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    3 years ago

    It's worth mentioning that many women do not have full control over their own reproduction. I suspect "it's against my beliefs" is sometimes a face-saving excuse that skirts around the more difficult subject of coercion.