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  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Tell me how some 18-year-old who was just deployed to Iraq can quit without at minimum a dishonorable discharge.

    On propaganda, the amount isn't as important as how easy it is to see through. If someone bombards you with tons of propaganda about something you have personal experience with, that propaganda isn't going to be that effective. But if you're bombarded with propaganda about something foreign to you, you're more likely to buy it.

    People don't have a full awareness of the reality of American policing, they just have more of an awareness of it than they do of what the military does. It's stuff happening in your backyard vs. across the globe.

    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Tell me how some 18-year-old who was just deployed to Iraq can quit without at minimum a dishonorable discharge.

      You start at conscientious objector and go from there. There are about a dozen ways.

      So Americans are aware of the reality of policing, which is why they slurp down bucketloads of propaganda in a full half of the top ten shows on TV.

      If Americans had 1/100th of the familiarity with policing that you're ascribing, Joe Biden would not be President, Kamala Harris would not be Vice President, Black Lives Matter would not have been defeated, Liberals would not be creaming themselves over that one Capitol Hill cop, and half of the most watched shows in the US would not be copaganda. You are simply wrong and a national chauvinist.

      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        You can't claim conscientious objector status after you volunteer for military service. You're just making stuff up.

        As for American familiarity with policing, consider the reaction you'd get for "fuck the troops" vs. "fuck the police." One is far beyond the pale outside of small, politically irrelevant leftist groups because it's met with such universal opposition. The other is a mainstream rap song people still listen to 30 years later.

        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          You can file for conscientious objector status after enlisting, look it up.

          And yes, Americans are more aware of policing than the military, but that is extremely localized and to any extent that it's broad, it's recent. Any time prior to maybe five years ago if you said "fuck the police" to a white person they would look like you'd just fucked their mother in front of them.

          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            No, that's incorrect, and you'd still get a dishonorable discharge in any event. And no one gets conscientious objector status if they wake up one day and don't want to fight -- you basically have to be a lifelong committed pacifist to even have a shot at it.

            Any time prior to maybe five years ago if you said “fuck the police” to a white person they would look like you’d just fucked their mother in front of them.

            This is also incorrect. There are sizeable segments of both the left and the right who've long been hostile to police, and direct (but more careful) criticism of the police has a long history at least among Democrats.

              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I didn't look it up because I know you're wrong, and you're the one making the assertion anyway. I'm not your research assistant.

                By sizeable segments you mean 0.5% of each (white) population

                You're totally disconnected from reality. Plenty of people knew there were serious issues with the cops long before five years ago.

                You're back to just making shit up -- I'm done here.

                      • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                        3 years ago

                        Lmao your own source -- had you bothered to even skim it -- shows you're full of shit. But keep calling other leftists Nazis. If you're not a cop, you're doing a cop's job.

                          • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                            3 years ago

                            "DEBATE ME DEBAETE ME DEABATE MEEME1!!!1!!!"

                            You're a wrecker and a miserable piece of shit, so I'm going with

                            :bugs-no:

                            • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                              3 years ago

                              Lmao most intellectually honest and curious American.

                              You've demonstrated every single thing I asserted, you soulless bug.

                              • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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                                3 years ago

                                lol someone just learned the phrase "intellectually curious"

                                :countdown:

                                • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                                  3 years ago

                                  You're so sure of your information and your convictions and yet you can't demonstrate what you're saying. Seems like some kind of soulless bug to me.

                                    • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                                      3 years ago

                                      Yes sir, Major! I'll get right back to my acceptable duties of scraping dead children off of tank treads!

                        • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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                          3 years ago

                          you're doing a cop's job

                          Oh sorry let me go on a tour of the Middle East and murder a few children, I know that's far more acceptable to you "people"