• SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I mean, Nazis adopted it in 1920. Finnish air force also consists of 134 planes in totality

      Either way...why keep it for like 80 years after it became prominently Nazi?

  • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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    3 years ago

    However, in 1920 Adolf Hitler adopted the swastika for his National Socialist party, which came to power the following decade in Germany.

    They had it before the Nazis

  • Tiocfaidhcaisarla [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    They had it several years before the nazis, but idk, maybe when fighting alongside a genocidal regime that uses the same symbol, and is widely known for that association, being close to and involved in the histories of those affected, I don't think having a couple years head start is a great reason to continue using it after it's mark on the world stage will inevitably link you to the nazis regardless of that.

      • LeninWeave [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        It was given to them by a Swedish noble. Who ended up being a Nazi. Related to Göring by marriage.

  • Multihedra [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Holy fuck. the article is slightly old (1 July 2020), but incredibly recent considering… all of it

    The change was first observed by University of Helsinki academic Teivo Teivainen

    He had previously questioned whether the continued use of the symbol was helpful for the Finnish armed forces.

    What the fuck have those conversations been like,

    “But, are we sure removing it won’t slow the planes down? I don’t think it’s hurting anything… it’s been fine this long”

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          They surely kept it cuz they were nazi simpathizers, that's :10000-com: certain, but I wouldn't complain with the basque people about their hippie-swastica (lauburu) cuz they had it before the nazis

          BTW: look at this lmao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basque_Nationalist_Action

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Nationalist party but socialist-ish and rightful violent separatists

              :chefs-kiss:

              • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                "Nationalist" in this case isn't really the same as right-wing nationalism. It's more about the desire for self determination and independence than seeing their nation as superior to others.

                • RNAi [he/him]
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                  3 years ago

                  Yes, like all the left/leftish movements in colonized countries

            • Vncredleader
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              3 years ago

              Also wasn't it becoming popular among those esoteric proto fascists for quite a while by that point? People are acting like the Nazis just adopted all this stuff out of nowhere as if this wasn't contemporary with groups like the Thule society and a larger movement.

              Germanenorden was a similar secret society with the same fucking ideals who monitored Jews, they adopted it in 1916, and the Order of the New Templars which followed Ariosophy used it in this context on their flag, I cannot find a date for their first usage, but they started it 1907. All of these groups knew each other, and had really close ties to Germanic and Nordic royals. The Thules where led previously by a Prince Gustav of Thurn and Taxis who got fucking owned by the Baravian soviet.

              Yeah Rosen used it cause he liked runes......and also was a Nazi who used it as a symbol for literal National Socialist meetings he ran. Why are there like 4 people in this thread saying just "they had it first" as if that means anything given the context around the swastika in 1918

  • justjoshint [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    damn bro howre they gonna epically freedom fight against soviet forces now?